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I got thinking about this while reading another post (I can't remember where). It was slightly off topic so I didn't want to hijack the thread, so I thought I would start a new topic.
Which country's coins have the biggest potential to appreciate over the next number of years. Somehow I think the coins of industrialized countries may have peaked.

Thoughts?
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Just it depends on supply and demand.
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China and India - and past incarnations thereof - would be my guess personally.
I doubt China is going to allow the trade in their old coins, however (as in it's more likely to go the way of Cyprus and Bulgaria).
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Early Islamic gold coins.
Unfortunately, they will probably remain under rated.

For most Western people, early Arabic script, as it appears on the coins, is difficult to understand.
There seems to be very little interest amongst wealthy Islamic people in their own numismatic heritage.
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Mexican War of Independence Coinage. Counterstamp pieces.

Canadian Blacksmith Tokens.

Type 1 Counterfeit 8 Reales (GNL)

I don't see a fourth in the Western Hemisphere ... other than raw/slab grade jumping ... on whatever.

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People usually guess that countries they expect to do well in the future will naturally see a price increase in their coins as more wealthy citizens take to collecting, so these threads are usually "what countries do you have high hopes for?", but some countries are just not as collectible as others and demand does not only come from inside of these countries. (otherwise, Vatican coins would see annual mintages of ~1,000 instead of ~100,000)

I would put some of my hopes in Asia - maybe China (although China is now one of the increasingly few countries where you can still find coins from the 1950s in circulation), but India stands out as a country with an excellent variety of modern circulating coins (to get people started) and an incredible historical depth to match (British India, Princely States, Mughal Empire, and then before that you just have so many kingdoms and countries you'd go crazy). Mexico is another one, their coins have been popular for a long time in America, they are the world's largest producer of silver and have classic precious coins to match, and so I think it's only fitting that once again, coins from Mexico will be desired throughout the world...

I would also watch coins from Eastern/Central Europe, all of these countries have long and interesting histories.
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Chinese coin prices have already gone up the roof and it's probably too late to buy genuine Chinese coins cheaply. In the past, you can get a nice Chinese crown for less than 50 dollars. Now you might be looking at four to ten fold. Indian coin prices have also gone up significantly compared to last couple of years.

It's usually the developing nations where prices would normally climb. BRIC is what many would think. Next would be MIST - Mexico, Indonesia, South Korea and Turkey. All of them have potential. South Korea coins actually are worth a fair bit and may not be an early market to crack into.
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I only say Mexico not because of the new Gurney Counterfeit 8 Reales book but the fact the Mexican Numismatic Association was just started as an organization only 3-4? years ago ... ENUF said ... <VVBG>.

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As with all investing/collecting, there are many oportunities, but no general recipe.

Here is my list:

Austria (thalers before 1600, but also silver & copper kreuzer coins in high grades)
Germany (Empire + Weimar, but also some of the german states thalers are quite affordable at the moment).
India (and most countries around it, such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, ...)
Malaysia (most countries in the region)



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The Canadian Mint did a number of coins for the Cayman Islands and the Turks and Caicos in the mid 1970's. The Sovereign Queens collection is a beautiful set and the coins can be had for not much more than bullion value. Same for the Cayman Victoria Crown compendium, 20 and 50 crown coins.


Belarus has many low mintage high standard coins as of late including the folk "Legend of" series, that are low mint in the silver versions.

Love this one and wish we could substitute the Victoria Gothic Florin obverse with it:

http://www.mint.ca/store/news/royal....VDesfmddWbY

That design looks like a color version of the old British Trade Dollar/Straits Settlement reverse.
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I might also add that the Australian Masterpieces series is also underrated with some of the sets around the turn of the latest century still going for not an astronomical amount over silver melt. Its hard to go wrong with proof coins that will not lose value as close as they are to their base value. I like the 1998 and 2000 sets.
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Early Islamic, both gold and silver, in high grades have come down in price in the last few years since the wealthy Arab collectors have lost interest in bidding up the prices to sky high levels. Western collectors are just not that interested in Islamic coins because they are difficult for them to understand.
Chinese cast can still be found at a reasonable price if you know where to look. Counterfeits are still a problem for the higher value pieces. Northern Sung is the most undervalued of all and probably will stay that way forever.
Yongzheng in particular is getting harder to find.
Japanese cast is undervalued, the domestic Japanese market is still in the doldrums. Coin collecting there is not too popular still (stamp collecting is VERY popular in Japan, though).
The market for certain segments of Indian is red hot (Sikh, East India Company milled issues, errors, and Kushan gold).
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I'm still trying to dip my foot into Mexico's currency, finish my type set - it's pretty challenging, for the most part because no one's letting go their problem free coins. Keep it hush until then. Mexico's coinage was used in China - nuff said there and all over Europe. Newfoundland is another one. Until then y'all should hoard your US silver to distract yourselves and empty your bank accounts.

^ to above posters: I find Arabic coins simply beautiful simply because I CANNOT read the language. It looks decorative to me and that's what I like about it. Kind of like how non-Asians get tattoos of Asian languages on their skin because it looks nice.
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 Posted 10/18/2014  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not invest in coins. Two reasons, no money. and the knowledge that coin investing is far more speculation than investing, especially with the question asked starting this thread.

If I did speculate...
I would look for a country that in the not too recent past had a crown sized silver coin minted and still available in sufficient quantities to market them well. Marketing is the key to rapid value increase. The smart money is moving away from precious metals and coins, the very smart money is long gone from the scene.

Of the countries mentioned I would guess Mexico would be the most likely canidate. The government is already promotiong the country's industrial potential and has solid connections with the US and Canada so investors would believe the marketing hype.

The key to a coin being a 'good' investment is not true rarity but something that is no longer minted with enough stock to promote and a preceived rarity. Case in point Morgan dollars.
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Brazil, Peru, British Colonial and Middle Eastern. Many seem to be even scarcer than their already low mintages suggest.
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