Confirmed Debased Silver Chihuahua Cast 8 Reales

Matt - no way to determine if contemporary counterfeit or regal. Interesting piece. My piece from MCC was $100. Check also this seller has a holed 1811 Chihuahua that they say has no colonial edge - plain edge? Still to respond from my inquiry. See ebay next week Sunday night under my ebay ID: johnmenc for a KOOL plain edge piece. Not really for sale just for show ... HIGH RESERVE. I do that occasionally.

Strange being from Durango ... but you are right. Even that Sud Copper with the Morelos C/S is modern? ... although the host looks good. It will be interesting at the MNA what counterfeits turn up ... I mean the good and bad ones ... maybe I can volunteer at the counterfeit table just in case a bag of Kleebergs turn up ... <LOL>.

They look DULL like German Silver forgeries ... to be honest Matt other than Kleebergs I have no idea YET what are good Mexican colonials counterfeits ... there is no information yet on what are desirable co-circulating contemporary with any accuracy from any author in this realm other than Kleebergs and GNL Type 1's - not to sound self-promoting - just learning. See Copperclem and take a look at his fake cobs ... he is a personal friend and an authority on CCs both for Spanish American and World. His English/Irish CCs are self-explanatory in terms of his depth of experience. The reason the English collectors have allowed us Yanks to EXPORT all these English/Irish 1/2d & 1/4d contemporaries is simply ... they don't have organizations like Colonial Coins Collector Club (C4) for their youth so these English numismatists primarily just collect silver, gold & ancients. Sad but true ... a guy name Cobwright really being the only pioneer but he also JUST exports (i.e., his ebay listings start with: USA Interest). <VVBG>.

JPL