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Error? 50th Anniversary Kennedy 2014 Half-Dollar Gold Proof

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Sent coin off to be grade with mint error. The Professional say no mint error. I was told it could be resubmitted at my expense, of course.

I tried to measure it in the capsule and I am getting between 0.08 and 0.012 miss alignment, if that what it is called. Is this within the US Mint Tolerance for this proof coin?

If NOT mint error what is it called?

Different Issues: Paid for secure capsule but I don't see the secure emblem on the capsule, they are looking into it, this battle going on for about a month now.

Like to hear what everyone else thing.

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 Posted 10/15/2014  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rottnrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not an error. Well within tolerance.
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 Posted 10/15/2014  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add American Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the US Mint Tolerance for this special proof coin?

How can I go about measuring the coin more accurately?
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When you have to measure in hundredths of an inch to find a variance, you are always going to be in tolerances. A MAD doesn't kick in until it is easily noticeable to the naked eye and has some portion of the design elements missing
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How can I go about measuring the coin more accurately?


No need to. This is not an "error."
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I have seen double die date and mint marks less noticeable than this coin that are graded error.

What is the different? I am just trying to educate myself.

Go to this third party web-site look up mint error in their glossary and see how they define mint error.
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Coins struck from doubled dies are not errors, they are varieties.

Coins struck form a misaligned die (MAD) are errors, but the value generated by MAD is dependent upon how far off that alignment is.
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Your coin is completely 'normal' based on mint standards ... and as stated above is not considered to be an error.

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It's within Mint tolerances...the difference is so small that if you don't decide to measure it accurately, it would look perfectly normal to the naked eye. Not an error.
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I keep reading about the naked eye. The naked eye is what lead me to take a closer look. You can see it if you look at the first picture.

In the end it is what it is.

On this coin how is it that the non-frost part of Kennedy face is on the coin?

Is there two-(2) dies?

Or just the frosted die?
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Coins struck from doubled dies are not errors, they are varieties.


From what I have been reading a varieties is cut into the die. Double dies are not cut into the die.
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Yes, they are. The image on the die is doubled. That doubled image is stuck into every coin it strikes, making that a variety, or more accurately, a die variety.

What you are probably thinking of is Machine Doubling, which would be an error (with little value, since it is common).

Here are two good posts that will hopefully clear things up for you...

How do you differentiate a variety from an error?

Machine doubling versus Hub doubling

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You are correct.

Thanks, that helps and makes sense.
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