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 Posted 10/16/2014  09:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add steve123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello!

I recently acquired five MS large cents. I've sent three out for grading but kept these two back because I thought they would grade lower and may not be worth it.

Some scans and pics are below.

I would appreciate some opinions on grade.

The obverse on the 1919 is lightly scratched (most do not show up on the pic) but magnifying a high-res image shows them. Probably a light cloth to dust at one time.

Thanks!

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Here are some photos. I'm not great at dead-on shots. I'm looking for a way to do some of the beautiful photography that I see on this site.



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10/16/2014 09:39 am
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 Posted 10/16/2014  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, the one on the right I would say is MS62RB. The pic on the left is impossible to grade from.
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Coins are probably the most difficult subjects photograph, I should know, I'm terrible at it. It's actually a real pain in the butt process and I dislike it immensely.

Anyway, I still can't give a meaningful grade based on these other pics. However, the 1919 piece is showing some pretty heavy glare, and I'm wondering if it may have been polished...?
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 Posted 10/16/2014  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with skip, the one on the right is about MS62RB, possibly polished.

For the one on the left, I can't tell. If possible, could you take pictures of it similar to the one on the right? I think what we mostly want to see is the detail on the beds/jewels closer to the front half of the crown, along with the tip of the moustache.

Nice coins nonetheless! If you get a chance, update us on the ones you've sent in for grading. I'd love to see those
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 Posted 10/16/2014  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll post some additional pics that I think are better. The 1919 has been brushed with a light cloth or similar on the obverse.

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Hopefully this is more helpful for the obverse of the 1915.



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 Posted 10/16/2014  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We're getting there....

Based on these new pics of the 1915 piece, I stand behind my grade of MS62RB. The difficulty is with the 1919 piece. From this last batch of pics, I still don't think I can give an accurate grade, but the 1919 appears to show some wear on the obverse (and I do see the scratches you mentioned previously). I don't feel comfortable giving it a grade based on these latest pics, but if there is any wear, it certainly won't be MS/uncirculated condition.
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hmmm....yes, I just studied the 1919 very closely. I thought at first it may have been a weak strike in the band and jewels. Now, I believe I see wear. The two beads are missing from between the front two full jewels. Also appears to be light wear going down into the moustache. So, I would say AU55-polished?
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Based on that description, I'd say more like EF (polished)
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 Posted 10/16/2014  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My mistake, skip79. Doing too many things at once. Thanks everyone for all your help!
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With all due respect and not trying to pick any argument, I am amazed on how you guys can determine a MS 62 grade based on these images.
it is hard enough to say AU or better, but determine a high grade?
what is your secret, please share it with us if you like.
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Both looks High Au, possibly low MS. Although I'm almost completely sure both have been polished/cleaned.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to say. The 1915 looks really well struck. The coin looks really good on the first picture and polished on pictures below. Going by the first picture I would say MS63 RB.
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 Posted 10/16/2014  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No secret, it's based on what I see (of course, coin in hand would likely render a different opinion, but I don't have that luxury here.)

On the 1915, based on the various angles, I see no traces of wear, and appropriate field marks and colouring consistent with that grade. That's what I see. Others may not see what I see, and that's fine. I believe there is a possibility of polishing on the 1915, but that I can't say with certainty. The 1919 appears (quite vividly) to be polished IMO.

Anyway, those are my opinions based on what I see.
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Too much glare on the last few photos to give an accurate grade on either coin IMO
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