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Pillar of the Community
United States
7375 Posts |
I've been watching this seller for maybe 6 months (or more,) and IMO he's found a way to grind the D off of a 1922 D, and make the coins look aged. Unless he found a roll of them on a shipwreck somewhere, all of his coins are fake, and have the same look. They aren't even what he describes. The current one is described as a 'weak reverse,' and the coin clearly has a strong reverse. I realize I might just be hoping against hope, and 'caveat emptor' is probably the only solution, but I've watched this go on for a while now and every time another one of his altered coins pop up, my blood boils a little. I've reported to ebay a few times, and messaged the seller a few times, and all I get is "thanks, have a nice day." Just my rant, he's found a nasty niche to exploit and probably nothing can be done. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-NO-D-D...S:SS:US:3160 |
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Valued Member
United States
214 Posts |
There are many sellers like this on ebay. All we have to do is not buy from them and help others to not as well. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4809 Posts |
Unfortunately Ed, the seller and the host are indifferent to your cause so long as there is money to be had. What a cruddy looking coin if indeed it was ever the real deal.
And you can't save every person from a bad spend every chance either. I'm sure your fellow CCF members appreciate your posts pointing out the shaky specimens for sale. At least we might have a fighting chance at keeping our bucks in our pockets.
And think of all the entertainment you've brought us...always fun to see what nasty item you've uncovered during your hunts!
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
526 Posts |
There appears to be over 50 1922 Lincoln sales on the first 5 pages of feedback....I stopped counting at that point  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4691 Posts |
No wonder the 1922-D is getting hard to find.
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Valued Member
United States
115 Posts |
somebody should give negative feedback
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1247 Posts |
I'm not paying 90-100, just to give negative feedback.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2200 Posts |
I love 1922 no Ds, but I'd gladly rescue the hoard of 22-Ds that he is destroying and give them a good home.
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Moderator
 United States
16677 Posts |
I'm surprised he has a return policy. Most of these con-men don't.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4337 Posts |
Wow that's messed up what he is doing with that 1922 over and over and over and over again. And ebay doesn't give a darn about it. Money talks and b.s. runs a marathon lads. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4211 Posts |
Sometimes I wonder if there aren't buyers that just want to "fill that empty hole" and have a don't ask...don't tell attitude with these expensive key coins?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sometimes I wonder if there aren't buyers that just want to "fill that empty hole" That empty hole should not even be in the album/folder because it technically is an error not a variety. There are laws that prohibit the alteration of coins for a profit. The difficult part is proving he is the one actually altering those cents. |
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
526 Posts |
If ebay dont do anything, and being an offense, shouldn't it be reported to the police or appropriate authority |
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Valued Member
United States
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That empty hole should not even be in the album/folder because it technically is an error not a variety.
There are laws that prohibit the alteration of coins for a profit. The difficult part is proving he is the one actually altering those cents. I know right? Why is the 22 plain and 3 legged buffalo in the albums to begin with. It's really annoying. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4901 Posts |
I looked at the last bunch of his '22 sales and all buyers seem satisfied.
I looked at the pics (yes, crappy pics) and saw no obvious issues with the coins. Just because a seller has a bunch of an item doesn't mean that they are fake/altered...it just means he has a bunch of them.
Until a buyer does a better exam and returns the coin with comment then I REALLY doubt an outside party will get far.
He has been selling them for a LONG time and I would guess that someone would have submitted ONE of those MANY 22's for grading. They are quite a few that sold near $600. I doubt those sales were just to "fill a hole"...all gave good feedback
100% feedback over 2200 transactions....I doubt that ALL the buyers are clueless
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IMO he's found a way to grind the D off of a 1922 D, and make the coins look aged...and have the same look. Just speaking for myself, it doesn't require much expertise in LWCs to notice these coins have a similarly suspicious appearance--an almost sanded-down and retoned "look" to the date area and odd color throughout.  But more importantly--backtracking their feedback as a buyer led me to no less than six purchases of 22-Ds. So he buys 22-Ds, but sells 22s w/o mintmarks--what's going on here is a no-brainer.  ~15 minutes of research turned up these purchases of 22-Ds. I'm sure I could find more matches with an exhaustive search  221549486349291245340830161427629671111466332441131282844071 (hidden best offer, cross-reference here) 390889314428 (another "hidden" best offer (nice try), cf. here) Quote:
100% feedback over 2200 transactions....I doubt that ALL the buyers are clueless But I also doubt that rating tells the whole story. People don't always find out they've been scammed and/or they refuse to admit it... Edited by DVCollector
11/16/2014 4:14 pm
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