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Quote: You cannot say "at all." Look at the legends. The quarters are the most diverse thing that we have in circulation but the obverse is still basically the same since 1932 and is currently scheduled to remain in effect long after the ATB series has run its course in 2021. When the "legend" should ending but isn't. Our current coinage has become tiring and is a legend that should be retired. Like the topic itself, all our coins should be changes. Some are better looking than others but once an idea is tried and retired it is time to move on to something new. Our coins shouldn't be like Hollywood with all their sequels or late night TV with the reruns. There is time when "legends" become downright boring and uninspiring.
Edited by ghostrider 10/23/2014 11:32 am
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I don't have any problem honoring the presidents on paper currency. But I also think we should bring Liberty back to the coinage. All new Liberty designs on every one of them.
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United States
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Maybe we used to be a more intelligent nation and that was reflected in our coins. The coinage from long ago reflected the ideals that we, as a nation, were striving to attain and reflected the basis for our country's founding. Now, it simply reflects people along the way. You don't have to think or stretch your imagination to come up with the subject matter. Even the PM coins do not reflect the ideals originally portrayed by their designs, but as copies, are intended only to reflect the history of the coinage. I agree with wanting new designs in the same spirit of the historic ones.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt
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I like the design on the Walking Liberty 1 oz silver bullion coin but the design is getting old. For myself I get excited when the new year approaches and wonder what Australia and China are doing for the new year on their Bullion 1 ounces silver coinage for obverses.
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Quote:The quarters are the most diverse thing that we have in circulation but the obverse is still basically the same since 1932 and is currently scheduled to remain in effect long after the ATB series has run its course in 2021. That is better. Quote: When the "legend" should ending but isn't. Just to be clear, the legends I referred to are the words. The 1932-1998 Quarter has Liberty and In God We Trust on the obverse. The 1999- Quarter has those two plus United States of America and Quarter Dollar. Not to mention, the head is a bit smaller. Again, we cannot say that it has not hanged at all, when in fact it has changed significantly. 
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Jbuck Quote:Quote: I don't think we should be honoring dead presidents except in the history books. That's where they deserve to be, and not in our pockets any longer.  I disagree on the IKEs 
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I love my Eisenhower dollars, no doubt. I do appreciate all of the dead president coins, to a point. However, they have had a good run. It is time to return to Liberty. 
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The "classic" style is just that--a style meant to reflect a certain artistic mindset from the 19th century. The reverses of the American Eagle silver and gold coins are in fact original designs in the classic style, and I find them very attractive. The classic style involves florid, fictional images and heavily serifed lettering. The Roosevelt dime is a good example of the modern style. Heavy, san serif letters and clean, lifelike images are a hallmark of that. I find it a very attractive coin. I think the problem is that recent design changes are most likely chosen by mint "suits" who have no concept of art, design, or history. The Lincoln shield reverse and the dollar Statue of Liberty reverse have all the artistic merit of a subway token. The Sacawagea flying eagle reverse, on the other hand, is an attractive return to the classic style. But the juxtaposition of the ultra-modern 3/4 angle Jefferson profile on the current nickel's obverse with the Greek-style art with Roman lettering on the 1938 reverse just doesn't make any sense. Same thing with the State Quarters. You've got the early 20th century artistic sense on the obverse and a mish-mosh of different styles (some with no style at all) on the reverses. I think this is what happens when you try to do too many things at once and try to please everyone.
Edited by jpsned 10/23/2014 8:31 pm
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Quote:The last time we had a meaningful change in our coin designs was when Theodore Roosevelt decided during his presidency that they needed a total facelift and we were given the Barber coins whose predecessors were in existence for 50 years. It was a change, but can you imagine how boring it was to have the dime, quarter and half all sharing the exact same design?
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I still feel that when an item has been around almost 100 years it is time to come up with some fresh ideas. At that age they are indeed legends regardless of what is printed on either their head's or tail's. What we have is a tried and true coin whose legend needs to be permanently retired and something fresh being presented to the populace. Art and history do have their place but not at the expense of format. I do agree that when you try to do too many things nothing is done to please anyone at all. When Roosevelt was decided that the U.S. money was boring he did something about it and the preceeding issues were not as old as what we are getting excited about every come January 1 when we have a clean coin to put in our albums. I personally think that the Walking Liberty half design is absolutely pleasing to the eye but I don't think neither it nor Seated Liberty, nor the Indian Head designs should be repeated out of nostagal or some other misplaced sense of loyalty. Coins should present to the world what we are and not honoring long dead citizens who are even aware of the honor. That's why I enjoy the reverse designs on the ATB but the obverse should be changed. Even the romans took the faces of their emperors of the coins after they were disposed of, yet we keep ours around forever. England and their commonwealth will be changing their obverses once Queen Elizabeth is no longer in charge and her likeness will not be restruck on their coins again unless there is a commerative coin struck. But I don't think we should be putting a living president on our coins because some may say that it is electioneering at tax payer expense. Overall we have to many coins being minted that are not intended for circulation but are legal tender that will be used. There are many ways to interpret Lady Liberty or Eagle. Perhaps we should rename the National Bird to honor the Turkey (As Ben Franklin initially wanted). But let's do something real and substantive for a change and not in piecemeal.
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Quote: It was a change, but can you imagine how boring it was to have the dime, quarter and half all sharing the exact same design? Before the Barber design was selected we had the Seated Liberty on our coins for the preceeding 50 years. Boring or not was an interesting design whose time was past and the era of Barber was introduced. Our present lineup needs revision badly but attractively. The same arguments could be used on our currency which now looks like Monopoly money but that is subject for another time and forum.
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Pillar of the Community
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If Liberty evolved to reflect a modern depiction & we suddenly saw an image of her with tomahawk cruise missiles instead of a shield & arrows, I could only imagine the backlash we'd see on this forum! 
Edited by CopperCastle 10/23/2014 10:58 pm
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Well talk of revamping the coin designs should certainly include scrapping useless denominations as well. That always turns into a heated debate for some, though.
If I'm president, I'm scrapping pennies, nickels, quarters and 1 and 5 dollar bills. I'll issue new 50 cent pieces, dimes and 1 and 2 dollar coins. Prices round to the nearest dime. Change can be made with 9 coins or less.
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Pillar of the Community
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I wouldn't go that far...I would just scrap pennies altogether. They are a useless coin, nobody wants them...so much so customers give you a change combination just to avoid getting pennies back. People leave them behind or I see them on the floor. A lot of countries dropped the cent and they didn't fall off the map.
But the real question remains...what is to be done with the stockpile of dollar coins sitting in government vaults? Why keep making them when there are billions of these things? What purpose does that serve? There are probably enough stockpiles to last several years.
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You know that regardless of if you like, dislike, hate or love the designs the Mint puts on coins is not to important to them. As long as someone buys that stuff, that is all they care about. Someone I used to know that was a Used Car Salesman said I don't care what you say about my cloths, my cars, my prices, as long as someone buys them.
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