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Coin Grading Without Date

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 Posted 10/26/2014  8:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 4321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I want to know how a coin without date is graded? and how much does a missing date effect the value of the coin? thanks
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 Posted 10/26/2014  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll let others correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that any coin without a date automatically defaults to "Poor" grade.

As for value, we will need to know which coin you are talking about. A dateless Buffalo nickel is worth like 10 cents, while a dateless 1916 Standing Liberty quarter (there are die markers to help identify) is still worth several hundred dollars.

Regardless, a coin without a date is probably the least valuable in terms of damaged coins--many dealers refuse to even pay melt.
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 Posted 10/26/2014  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the dates on Buffalo nickels and type 1 and type 2 SLQs wear down before they reach a "poor" grade. Usually a coin is missing date only when it's very worn. Others have the date unreadable by damage. Either way they are less valuable than coins with readable dates. I'm not familiar with values of Classic US coins, so I'll let someone else more knowledgable to advise you about this.
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 Posted 10/27/2014  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The value of a dateless coin will depend on whether or not someone can determine the date through other means like unique design features or die variety. Even if a date can be determined, the same coin with a visible date will be more desirable than one without. Otherwise, a dateless coin has very minimal value as a type set hole filler.
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 Posted 10/27/2014  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wonder what happens if the date is cut off by a clip...
I've heard of some guy who had an 1964 Kennedy half where the date was clipped away but still identifiable because of the coin being full silver. Don't remember if he ever got it graded, but the story was funny.
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 Posted 10/27/2014  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly wouldn't grade a coin Poor just because it has no date or is unreadable - I think that's ridiculous.

I think you should look at the whole coin.

A few weeks ago there was a Victorian Jubilee Head crown, in an auction, covered in punch marks including several that obliterated the last 2 digits.

The crown was AU apart from the punch marks. It fetched £65 + buyers premium, which I felt was too much, though I think it would be worth more than melt.

Of course, it might have been bought by a punch mark collector.

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 Posted 10/27/2014  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am thinking about buying a draped bust half dollar looks vg to f but date is scratched off for 130. Is that a good idea.
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 Posted 10/27/2014  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without seeing pics of the Draped Bust Half Dollar with the date scratched off like it was a lotto ticket, I would look at it like this.

Assuming the coin is real it is worth melt. Not going to look up melt or link to any site for melt value, but I am going to guesstimate that value to be $6.50. I would buy it at melt no problem if real.

I can't imagine the seller wants to come off it at melt though. I see what I imagine are similar coins sell on ebay for $40 delivered. Your coin with the date scratched off is worse than that though.

If I was trying to be fair and without pics, I might offer $15 - $20 for starters. Can't imagine I would want to go much north of $30.

Hope this helps. . . .
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 Posted 10/27/2014  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Didn't notice the $130 when posting.

I think I would pass and get a coin with less / no problems for half that cost.
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