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Beny87 New Member Israel 32 Posts	Posted 10/27/2014 10:05 am Hi I am new here and it Coin World I received few coins and two of them our 5 kopek from 1788 and 1787 want know if thy real our fake Report this Post to the Staff

Beny87 New Member Israel 32 Posts	Posted 10/27/2014 10:11 am Report this Post to the Staff
Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 10/27/2014 4:20 pm TM : mintmark : Feodesia, Crimea, 1787-1788 (that is the first thing that is correct) Monogram : ruler Catherine II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great) (seems correct) The coins have good detail, seems also correct. Krause says : Note: During the war between Russia and Sweden In 1788. the Swedish government began to strike copies of the current 5 kopek piece using a Royal instead of Imperial crown design. Several dates are known. A common way to distinguish the wedish forgery from the original is to note that "kopek" is spelled with a "ь" as a last letter rather than "ъ" as found on the genuine Issue. Another sign is the 7's in the date which are straight on the Swedish piece and curved on the Russian originals. As your coins are not the swedish type, they should be rather rare. But if they are real? I do not know. They are very nice coins! http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/...-duid-165018 Report this Post to the Staff
Beny87 New Member Israel 32 Posts	Posted 10/27/2014 4:37 pm Thank you so much for the help. I was told by different fourm that thy fake because of their condition could this be true? Report this Post to the Staff
Medieval Pillar of the Community 3772 Posts	Posted 10/27/2014 7:14 pm Quote: ... that thy fake because of their condition could this be true? The condition of the coins certainly raises a suspicion, usually they look a little more 'battered' even in top condition. Does that condemn them to being fake? Not by itself. Are they both the same weight? (The rim of the top one in the first picture seems to be thinner.) Sorry, but cannot answer your question with confidence either way. Report this Post to the Staff
jcmworld Pillar of the Community United States 567 Posts	Posted 10/27/2014 8:32 pm Fakes. Catherine II Piataks didn't have raised rims. The eagles are wrong in some of their details as well. Report this Post to the Staff
Beny87 New Member Israel 32 Posts	Posted 10/28/2014 02:17 am Ones again thanks for the help the coins our the some wight about 47 gm about the raised rims I saw this one that also has raised rimshttp://www.m-dv.ru/monety-rossii-17...-prohod.html Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 10/29/2014 12:20 am jcm is right. They are novelty replicas with artificial patina. Report this Post to the Staff
Beny87 New Member Israel 32 Posts	Posted 11/02/2014 11:16 am Thanks for the help would love to know how to spot the the difference between the replica and the original If I come in across them again Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 11/03/2014 01:50 am Look at lots of fakes, it will get your eyes trained to spot them automatically. There is really no better way as good fakes usually have correct details. Report this Post to the Staff
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