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Help ID Roman Coins Bought In Cairo

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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add robchd85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,
I just picked up these coins from an antique store in Cairo. The coins looked genuine - the old chap sold them as Roman coins. I got all these for about $220. Any help in identifying them, time period, and value would be greatly appreciated.

Rob


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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Could be just the pictures, but none of these coins appear to be genuine. The first coin on the left is supposed to be a First Meris, this type was only struck in silver. That coin doesn't look like silver. The second coin is supposed to be an Alexander III also struck in silver again it doesn't appear to be. Sorry to say but none of these are legit. I doubt if you will be able to get your money back, you may want to try though. Good luck.
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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robchd85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the quick reply - its quite unfortunate really. Will try and see if I can return tomorrow but doubt it. Amazing how they manage to make these coins appear ancient and authentic. Should have done the research.
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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robchd85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just wondering - any thought on the first left in the 2nd photo? Its quite thick and heavy.
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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Similar to the second coin in the first group.

This is what a real one should look like.



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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Egypt has been famous (infamous!) for manufacturing "antiquities" for nearly 200 years !

Egyptology became quite vogue after the Rosetta Stone was deciphered and tourists began flocking to see things 'Biblical'.
It is a cottage industry in places like Cairo.
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 Posted 10/28/2014  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for your loss here friend. But we have all made mistakes like this, whether it be buying fake coins, or overpaying for them we've all done it at some point. But we learn not to do it again in the future. Good luck to you in your future numismatic ventures.
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 Posted 10/28/2014  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add caesar77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I am an admitted ignoramus and novice, but damned if I trust a coin dealer in Cairo, not even Sulla from Indy! Seriously, as we know even CNG makes mistakes, and recently they even mislabeled a Heraclius coin, which I see they have not changed in spite of David Sear telling them the correct label. So, if the experts mess up, we all need to be cautious. This was a $200 mistake, but it could have been worse. Better luck next time.... Dr Jones....
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Sorry for your loss, but as the others already told you those coins are clearly fakes.
Hope this does not distract you from collecting genuine ancient coins.
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Here are some real ones for comparison...

Note made of silver.

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I want that First Meris so bad. One day I'll get one of my own.
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Don't be discouraged.
I have been caught, too, and I probably will again, but hopefully not nearly as often.

Take these guys advice. I am. It is good Insurance.

1. Buy from a reputable seller (in the early days - no exceptions).

2. Only buy where the coin is guaranteed authentic by a money back guarantee.

3. Ask questions - here and elsewhere

4. If buying on ebay expect trouble and ALWAYS pay with Paypal.

Keep collecting, learn, and enjoy.

What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

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 Posted 10/28/2014  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An important issue to note here: it is illegal to sell genuine ancient coins, or any other artefacts more than 100 years old, to tourists in Egypt. It is likewise illegal to attempt to export such antiquities from Egypt. I do not know, with all the turmoil going on in Egypt in recent years, how strictly these laws are enforced these days. But my advice would be that it would be safe to assume that anyone in Cairo openly selling "Roman coins" is lying.
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