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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1949 Posts |
These two came in a world coin collection I purchased, marked on holder as errors, I know nothing about errors, could these be legit or is it just PMD on both?   Thanks!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2563 Posts |
Planchet clips. Nice! 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2519 Posts |
It would be helpful if you can take a closer photo of the clip and the rim opposite of the clip. I can't tell too much from your photo.
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Valued Member
United States
453 Posts |
They look like they were clipped from birth to me! Error in other words not PMD.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4911 Posts |
Fake errors all the way. There's no blakesy effect and you can see the obvious excess metal build up on the edge of the clip from it being ground down/cut after strike, also with clips this big you would expect to see at least some weakness near the clip from the lack of metal to fill the die.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
I'm leaning heavily towards the "fake" side. "thedollarman" has nailed the reasons.
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
1949 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4911 Posts |
To start off I gotta say no doubt these are fake, you can see the filing marks on the first pic. Sorry
The blakesly effect is a weakness of rim and strike opposite to the clipped side of the coin because of the lack of metal to fill the die since clipped coins aren't round and have metal missing.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2519 Posts |
I agree with Dollarman. With the additional photos I say fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
604 Posts |
Edited by Neo13x 10/30/2014 8:28 pm
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Valued Member
United States
453 Posts |
I spoke too soon. I can see tool marks in one of your additional pics. Sorry.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
762 Posts |
I'm no expert on the blakesly effect but for me the alarm bells started ringing when I saw how worn the 1920 sixpence is. Surely no genuine clipped planchet would have survived in circulation so long
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
I can't see any evidence of the Blakesley Effect. That makes me lean to the possibility of a fake error.
Search Google Images 'blakesley effect coins' for pictorial examples.
Edited by sel_69l 11/01/2014 04:29 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1041 Posts |
just to much wear tells me to run away from these fakes
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Valued Member
Australia
369 Posts |
 Definite fakes.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2563 Posts |
Yep, fakes now. Too many scratches
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