Really PCGS, Cameo? 1960 SD LMC PR-65RD Cam

I don't see it either.

A lot depends on "who" the coins original submitter happens to be. The more you submit and the bigger the name of your company, the better your grades are gonna be.

I've always thought that.

No way to tell without seeing it in-hand. A cameo copper piece is a different animal than silver/gold. Modern proofs often "cameo" when graded without dramatic contrast. If you have it in-hand and don't believe it is a cameo then I would sell it or return it if recently purchased.

I will add the obverse looks very nice for a 65

When they are sitting in the grading room, I highly doubt they are going through the thousands of coins they handle and looking to see who the submitter is and grading on a 'scale' dependent on the whom the submitter is... I was under the impression there is a whole series of safeguards to prevent the graders from having any idea at all who the submitter is...


I think from time to time there are coins overgraded, and from time to time undergraded... If certain submitters were able to consistently count on receiving higher grades than other submitters, that would put an end to the whole TPG process rather quick, and would hurt the hobby significantly...

nah, the photo shows it all. looking at other proof lincolns, the ear and hair don't have the detail the others have graded less. it would be nice to actually have the cameo. Not that I'm complaining because I bought it at a non-cameo price. i'll try to sell it and buy another.