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 Posted 09/02/2007  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO the most important thing I look for in order

- A dealer I can trust
- Friendly service, someone I can learn from
- Fair prices
- Decent sized inventory

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 Posted 09/02/2007  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevrolet454ss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One way I get invortary or upgrade my collection of coins.
1. Is to buy fed boxs of coins from your bank. If you buy large amounts
of coin boxs to search you can get lots old coins. Example one 100 dollar bank box of nickels I will get maybe 6 bucks worth pre 1960 stuff. On halfs you can still
pull pre 1969 silver coins, proofs, au, bu 1971 thru 2004 coins in fed boxs.
If you do that You need 3 banks accounts. One or two banks to buy fed boxs from. Third bank you want try see if they have coin machices to dump coins in there. I think you can start out with say one thousand dollars to buy coin boxes . Thats two half boxes or 10 100 dollar nickel boxes or 40 boxes of pennys to go thru for free invoraty your buying at face value. Key in this thing is to go thru fast and dump them fast where you can buy another round of boxes to search. One guy I read about buys 10000 worth of halfs week or monlth each from his bank . In last batch he got over 1300 worth of silver coins in those batches from federal government or reserve bank.

You will amazed all the stuff I found in those fed boxes, coins from overseas, old coins, error coins sometimes, proofs, On somedays I can go thru 500 to 1000 dollar worth coins all in one day. My last set on quarters I was building. I bought and sold over 600 dollars to build one 1965 thru 2007 set. All I had 80 bucks in pocket and built my set using that 80 bucks. I had to make like 7 to 10 trips bank to keep buying and selling rolls in about 3 or 4 hours time. I completed intire set minus one coin from 2004, 2007 coin. To save money on gas in truck. I just found an parking lot to park truck and go thru those quarters for set and reroll them to sale to bank. You can do that all day long building sets. Be safe and be secure in parking lots. I like grocery stores, places like Walmart, shoping malls to blend in where people dont know what your doing and I sometimes just move around going from parking lot and off to another bank to buy coins in the course serval hours. I built lots nickel books like that before. On large amounts coins take them home and go thru them since you can be safe that one.I never stay in same spot very long to attract bystanders or get found out. I onley keep less than 100 bucks on me when I build sets or buy coins to search. Large amounts like halves or dollar coins I take them home to search since thats an lot of money to have in truck or parking lots.

That one trick you can do get free invortary for your store at face value or build an large collection of coins like I been doing to sale later to buy stuff like stuff I cant find from bank rolls or coin search.

On building sets for resale the trick is buy solid date rolls of coins on whatever sets your building. I am trying to build 50 penny books for resale. I been buying solid date rolls of bu coins from 1959 thru 2007. I may add proofs to sets I am building. On the 1934 thru 1958 section I got luckey and paid 300 or 350 for all the solid date rolls to complete the set. I am looking for 1909 thru 33 solid date rolls of coins to finish it. On my 1959 thru 1986 section of book. I bought every bu roll for 125 from an coin dealer shuting down. I need the small dates to finish that. I did buy the 2000 to 2007 section from another dealer on ebay. I need 87 thru 1999 to finish it. These days I need to find an person where I can buy 50 dansco books at wholesale prices to start installing those coins in books. You can find lots bu coin rolls for greysheet prices sometimes or people selling old dealer stock in large lots of coins on ebay. It cheaper to buy large lots of bu rolls becides buying one roll at an time I learned. Whatever you its beter to buy in bulk on anything. I never pay retail on my coins for my collection or hoard I am building.

My last trick on geting key date coins for sets. I buy incomplete sets people started and never finished. I learned incomplete sets sell for an fraction sometimes since I guess people dont want them. I Buy the incomplete set and strip them to build one complete set. I know serval dealers who buys sets and parts them out selling single coins for retail prices. Example some sets you will spend 3 to 4 times over than what you can sell it for buying single coins at retail prices.

On mint sets or proof sets yet. I have not found out on how buy those at wholesale prices . I wish I could start buying those cheap and start breaking them up for single coins. I know one dealer I buy from does that . I am amazed that dealer is onley 14 years old selling on ebay like he does. He is cheaper and moves more coins compared to other dealers. His mother and father helped him get started. I dont know how gets them so cheap yet. I dont know on those yet. I wish I knew . If he stays with he can own his store when he like 20 years old.

Good luck you will need lots money get started doing it. I wish I had money to start an coin shop but I don't these days. Maybe some day after I build my hoard or collection up big time like I been trying from roll searching. My last retail business I opened I had to shutdown since it costing me 10000 to 15000 per month just keep the doors open before I made any money to take home. Those can be expensive with overhead these days.

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 Posted 09/02/2007  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like a coin store that has people in there who recognize you from one visit to the next, who remember what sorts of things you are currently collecting, and who greet you with a smile every time you come in. It's a plus if they have a coffee pot and small seating area for the "regulars" to hang out and chew the fat about coins and politics and whatever else is going on.


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 Posted 09/02/2007  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well let me say. I was a bit put off with a local dealer in town recently when I was forced by my 12 yr old daughter to have to go get three 2x2 pages for her binder, total cost say $2.40 inc tax. He was put off by the whole sale and seemed to act as though this was a waste of his time. But it is not a waste of his time when I come in and buy a roll of AGE's etc. But I got the message. Don't bother. Here in my area we have 4 coin dealers within about 50 miles. And all of them have attitudes.

And there are those that wonder why I buy so much online, from dealers in New York, Paris, Berlin etc.
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 Posted 09/02/2007  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought when I was in NYC a few years ago, that going into Stack's Gallery would be a put off, you know the scenario, hoytee toytee etc. I straddled in right off of W. 57th Street, someone opened the door for me, then the first thing they asked, "What would you like coffee, tea, water?" Walk in there in bluejeans, but I felt as though I walked in in a tux the way I was treated, they make you feel like you have to buy something because they treat you so well. No wonder they have been in business over 60 years.
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quote:
Well let me say. I was a bit put off with a local dealer in town recently when I was forced by my 12 yr old daughter to have to go get three 2x2 pages for her binder, total cost say $2.40 inc tax. He was put off by the whole sale and seemed to act as though this was a waste of his time. But it is not a waste of his time when I come in and buy a roll of AGE's etc. But I got the message. Don't bother. Here in my area we have 4 coin dealers within about 50 miles. And all of them have attitudes.



Go in there and get ready to buy something expensive. Start pulling out your money and say, oh wait your that a hole and walk out.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
chrsb & RKC: You know just the opposite happens occationally. A Bar I occationally stop in on Fridays is loaded with Attorneys wearing 3 piece suits, leather brief cases, looking as prosperous as possible. It is almost commical when someone needs a drink how fast those prosperous individuals vanish. Washroom must be jammed.
A note to chevrolet454ss: Not to be critical, but excessively long post with constant bragging of fantastic success stories has a tendency to make some fall asleep. Myself, I miss about 90% of long post like yours. Sorry, just my opinion.
Meanwhile back to the subject. Just learn to be versatile.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The best advice I could give to anyone in your situation would be to Stay In School.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RKC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I am set up in an Antique Mall in a town that has never had a sucessful coin shop in40 years. I am retired, don't really care if I make any money or not as long as I can pay the rent and help people with their collections. Building Trust is probably the most important thing. I can spout religion and declare honesty out my ears but where have you ever seen a sign saying " Crooked John's Coins". Every Crook in town declares Honesty but who declares Trust?
I attempt to treat everyone as if they were in my living room.
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RKC well it seems you are on a very good start, if you keep integrity first you will be surprised how many repeat customers you get, and then you may even be able to open another shop across town then another one in the middle of town as time goes by. As you have heard a honest dealer is what everyone is looking for and one that treats them well no matter how much they spend and a dealer that will have both are pretty hard to find and the ones that do are like Scottishmoney was talking about, they are still around 60 years later because word of mouth is your best advertisement
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I know RKC as he is a fellow WINS member and I can vouch for his integrity. I think it's great that he wants to join the seller ranks. It will be a benefit to everyone.

Keep in mind that we also have a Buy/Sell/Trade section here that you will be welcome to use as soon as you have 50 posts. Our auction section gets quite a bit of activity also.

Once again, thanks so much for joining us!
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 Posted 09/03/2007  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd just like to add that the reason I advised him to stay in school is because his profile says he's 12, not because he wouldn't be an excellent coin dealer.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RKC. Don't know where your store will be but if in an area like the Chicago type area, make sure you invest in a large safe. Have those security cameras also. Always place one in an obvious location and make sure of at least one more well hidden. A little red button under the counter that contacts the local police would also be nice.
Around here I always wonder why no one has a .50Cal machine gun mounted on the roof.
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RKC: One more suggestion. The store you are considering. Check out the lighting. If all on one circuit, all fluorescents, you could end up with some interesting headachs. I would suggest you get a few Incandescent lamps in miscellaneous locations. This would also help customers see the coins better.
Fluorescent lamps are not a continuous light. They work by a burst of electrons flashing through a gas and illuminating that gas. Since this is a burst of electrons, the light is actually on and off and on and off. To fast for your eyes but your brain feels it. This is why so many office workers get headachs. It is called a strobiscopic effect. You can detect this with a fan. As the fan starts up the blades increase then appear to slow down or stop and then proceed to increase again. In factories OSHA has forbidden the usage of Flourescent lamps unless on a multitude of different circuits and phases. That is the strobiscopic effect. In offices this is normally rectified by staggering the lamps on different circuits from different phases from a 2 or 3 phase panel.
Sorry about the explanation but it could save your head from a lot of aches.
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Some guy that refers to himself as Just Carl is alleged to have offered the following opin:
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A note to chevrolet454ss: Not to be critical, but excessively long post with constant bragging of fantastic success stories has a tendency to make some fall asleep. Myself, I miss about 90% of long post like yours. Sorry, just my opinion.


I will keep it short and just say, yep!
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