1896-O & 1878-S Morgans Questions Or Two Added A Picture

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amac44 Member United States 3242 Posts	Posted 09/02/2007 5:29 pm I just got 1896-O from a yard sale its been cleaned how much did the cleaning cost the grade This 1878-S is it a long hock or short Image: 18961.jpg 64.84 KB Image: 18962.jpg 69.29 KB Image: 18963.jpg 84.07 KB Image: 1878s.jpg 67.97 KB Image Insert: Edited by amac44 09/03/2007 11:34 am Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 09/02/2007 5:57 pm Being relatively low-value in the EF-AU I'd assign it, the cleaning puts the 1896 at not much over bullion value. If it were Mint State, it'd still be worth something. The 1878 is almost certainly a short nock - even in such a small pic, you should be able to see the end of the nock peeking past the farthest reach of the arrow fletches. The 1878 looks like a nice coin, though. Report this Post to the Staff
Amazon99 Pillar of the Community United States 2443 Posts	Posted 09/02/2007 6:49 pm What's a short nock? Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 09/02/2007 7:02 pm the nock is the arrow shaft, long nocks are very rare in 1878-S Morgans and as far as I know there are none known in MS grades Report this Post to the Staff
Amazon99 Pillar of the Community United States 2443 Posts	Posted 09/02/2007 7:06 pm I see. Thanks for the reply Bryan. Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 09/02/2007 8:26 pm I have looked at every 1878-S Morgan on ebay for three years, looking for Long Nocks. I cherrypicked one a couple of years ago. At any given time, there are over 200 available. There's one Long Nock up for auction right now; a couple weeks ago, an NGC F-12 sold for $198. Usually there are none at all. If I ever find an MS Long Nock, you will hear me yell from wherever you are. Report this Post to the Staff
mcrespo1 New Member United States 39 Posts	Posted 09/02/2007 10:40 pm I have a question for you Dave about the cleaning issue. Why is cleaning such a big deal to collectors and why should it affect the worth of the coin? It seems to me that a clean coin would be easier to see the true condition. Report this Post to the Staff
amac44 Member United States 3242 Posts	Posted 09/03/2007 09:29 am Being a Dime collector for many year I am not to sure about Morgans. there to many type coins to remember! thanks SuperDave When ever you clean a coin it removes the surface and that make it some what worthless but this will fill a space I only paid $5.00 for it! Image Insert: Edited by amac44 09/03/2007 11:32 am Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 09/04/2007 11:59 am quote: Why is cleaning such a big deal to collectors and why should it affect the worth of the coin? It seems to me that a clean coin would be easier to see the true condition. A cleaned coin is a damaged coin- that is why it is such a big deal. Cleaning removes metal from the surface which will degrade it's "true condition", not make it easier to see. IMO, the 1896-O posted is just as bad as if it wasn't cleaned but instead had a big "X" scratched across it. Of course, you can never go wrong with a silver dollar for $5- cleaned, damaged, or whatever- it is still silver. Edited by biokemist6 09/04/2007 12:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 09/04/2007 4:20 pm quote: Being a Dime collector for many year I am not to sure about Morgans. there to many type coins to remember! thanks SuperDave When ever you clean a coin it removes the surface and that make it some what worthless but this will fill a space I only paid $5.00 for it! Heck, for $5 you could make it a pocket piece. By the time you manage to wear the other $5 worth of silver off it, silver will have gone up so it'll be worth $10 again. Report this Post to the Staff
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