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I like the idea of coins that, for one reason or another, barely exist or don't exist at all, despite having mintage records. Also alluring are coins that exist but that have no mintage records.

Here is a list I've come up with of such coins, in no particular order. I'd love to hear any comments about any of these coins that may have some meaning to you or that you'd like to discuss.

1852 Half Cent
1873-CC dime
1866 quarter, no motto
1873-CC quarter, no arrows
1838-O half
1853-O half
1866 half, no motto
1873-S half, no arrows
1858 dollar
1866 dollar, no motto
1870-S dollar
1873-S dollar
1841 quarter eagle
1870-S three dollar gold piece
1841-O half eagle
1854-S half eagle

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Don't forget the 1933 Double Eagle or the 1894-S dime!

But your use of the word "Phantom" really makes me think of the 1964-D Peace dollar. If I recall correctly several hundred thousand were minted and all were ordered to be melted. None have come to light but with so many made it seems like it would have been too tempting for someone not to have made off with at least a few!
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I did originally have the 1933 double eagle as well as the 1849 double eagle in the list. I didn't include them here because they're so well known as being unique or close to it.

I also had the 1804 dollar, but to me that is so well known that it no longer registers any mystique with me. Same with the 1894-S dime and the 1913 Liberty nickel.
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We can't forget about the 1964 Peace dollar...
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Or the 1876-CC Twenty Cent Piece which had virtually the entire quantity of 10,000 melted shortly after being struck. The few surviving examples were the pieces sent to the Assay Commission and a possibly a few as souvenirs of a discontinued series.
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1861-d $1 Gold,
1875, 1876 $3 Gold,
1927-d $20 Saint,
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And then - though it's somewhat too late for this forum - there's the ludicrous story of the 1959-D Wheat cent...
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1873-CC half dollar no arrows
1834 $2.50 Quarter Eagle
1822 $5 Half Eagle
1861 Double Eagle with Paquet reverse
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1834 $2.50 Quarter Eagle ?
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The 1834 Capped Bust quarter Eagle's mintage was 4,000 likely heavily melted as the weight was reduced in the same year.
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1913 Liberty Head Nickel
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And remember that for decades there were rumors of the existence of the long lost 12,000 1895 business strike Morgan dollars. Sadly for me that rumor has been laid to rest. I would love it if we all were still able to contemplate the possible existence and whereabouts of these phantom 12,000.
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The Australian 1930 Penny
THAT coin has no mintage records either!

How about a U,S $100 gold Union? That coin does NOT exist, although designs were prepared.
Imagine! Four ounces of gold in a circulating coin!
Enough to pull your trousers down!
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Wasn't there an actual pattern minted for a half-union?
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Sense I'm Canadian I was going to say Canadian dimes from 1922-1927 but with American coins I`ll say the 1827 Half Cent and the 1830 Half Cent.
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1852 Half Cent None made all known pieces are proof restrike made in the late 1850's

1873-CC dime Assume you mean the no arrows coin. Production began but in early Feb 1873 the weight was increased and the coins could not be issued. The unique surviving coin was probably the one sent the annual assay.

1866 quarter, half, and dollar no motto These were fantasy pieces made at a later date for private sale. The quarter and half are unique and there are two of the dollar. A set of these was stolen for DuPont in 1967. Their recover makes an interesting story in itself.


1873-CC quarter, no arrows similar to the 73-CC no arrows dime but apparently a few were released before the Feb weight increase. Five pieces known

1838-O half These were test pieces made to test striking qualities of the new design and then again later in New Orleans to test the die and press (The dies were too short for the press in New Orleans and they tried to compensate by adhering an additional block of steel under the reverse die. It didn't work. About 20 struck, ten in Philadelphia and ten in New Orleans, nine pieces known today.

1853-O half again I am assuming you mean the no arrows coins. Similar to the 1873 CC coins only this time the weights were reduced. Four pieces known , the last one turned up just recently in a group of silver pulled for circulation in the 1930's.

1873-S half, no arrows Similar to the 1873 CC coins, one piece sent to Philadelphia for the annual assay, the rest melted. None known today

1858 dollar Proof only issue Official records say 80 pieces but estimates for frequency of appearance suggest a closer estimate would be 350 pieces.

1870-S dollar In 1870 they laid the cornerstone of the second San Francisco Mint. A complete set of S mint coins were placed in the cornerstone. No coins were made for circulation of the Half Dime, quarter, silver dollar or three dollar gold. Apparently they struck a few pieces of each of these so they could select a nice one for the cornerstone. The duplicates are where the unique Half Dime and three dollar gold came from. Not sure why they made so many silver dollars, but nine of these are known today. The 1870 S quarter is the only "cornerstone" piece not known today.

1873-S dollar Assume you mean the Standard dollar. Same as the 1873 S no arrows Half dollar

1841 quarter eagle Not sure

1870-S three dollar gold piece See 70-S dollar

1841-O half eagle not sure

1854-S half eagle First year of issue from the San Francisco mint. They had problems with a shortage of parting acids needed for refining the gold. so mintage was very small.

1861-d $1 Gold The US did not make any gold dollars in Dahlonega before the state succeeded. All coins were struck by the Confederacy but they stopped because there was going to be a shortage of gold and they needed the bullion just for the southern cause.

1875, 1876 $3 Gold In these years the only way to get proof gold was to buy the full set, individual pieces were not sold. That was a HUGE amount of money at the time so mintage dropped through the floor.

1927-d $20 Saint Most of the double eagles struck in the later years never leaft the Treasury vaults. The Treasury did allow collectors to order two coins of each date and and mint for their collections. A few wealthy collectors did purchase examples for their collections and that is where the survivers known today came from.

Wasn't there an actual pattern minted for a half-union? Two different designs in 1877. Several were struck in copper and copper gilt. One specimen of each design was struck in gold. When William Woodin purchased them for $10K each it cause a commotion. In order to get them back the government traded a couple of TRUNKS of patterns for them. today they are in the Smithsonian
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