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A Modern One! James I Shilling.

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I just thought I would share this, because it is a bit of a departure for me. I am not usually tempted by such 'modern' coins. (I hope it falls within the remit of the group. What is the latest acceptable date here?)

James I (1603-1625), Shilling, 5.88g, 32mm. 1st Coinage, m.m. Thistle, Second bust. 1603/4

Obv. Crowned bust of James right, XII behind, IACOBVS D G ANG SCO FRA ET HIB REX.

Rev. Royal arms on shield, EXVRGAT DEVS DISSIPENTVR INIMICI

Ref. N.2073; S.2646.



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What is the latest acceptable date here?

From: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...sp?CAT_ID=13

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Ancient, Greek, Roman, and Medieval Coins up to 1600 AD.
Not trying to rain on your new coin but this is the answer to your question.
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Awww.OK VK. I missed the mark by three years. I will leave this message up just long enough for you to see it and then remove the thread.
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LOL if I had the godly powers of moving and deleting threads I'd let this slide since it is so close and you didn't know the cutoff date but its up to echizento or any other mod to decide.
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 Posted 11/11/2014  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very nice coin.
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Thanks for shuffling me in the right direction Echizento!
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Nice coin 'Valecrucis'.
As so often the obverse is weakly struck in comparison to the reverse but still quite okay.
Were is your coin from Mary Queen of Scots?
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I don't have one of hers as yet Medieval. I did have one of her groats, when I was a child, in a former collection, but then the obverse was so worn she was entirely faceless! So I suppose that will be yet another one on the wish list eh!
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Are these coins easy to find in this grade in the UK and are they expensive? Or are they like US classic coins are here which IMO tend to be way overpriced?
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More and more, I think all medium priced coins and above exist in a global market. What with the price of international postage reducing and the Internet putting collectors in touch with dealers and auctions around the world, I don't see many great differences in the values of coins regionally.

I would be surprised if the price differences between, say, the UK and the US generally are nearly as large as those caused by other factors such as type of venue. As you know, Echizento, I am an eBayer and picked this one up there...

Because there are SO many American numismatists with cash to spare compared to other nationalities, with a natural bias towards American coins, I would imagine that American coin prices are a little more inflated than others.
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Thanks, that's good to know. I was hoping to hear that the prices were a bit cheaper in the UK, but I guess if they were you would still have to factor in the shipping costs.
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I was hoping to hear that the prices were a bit cheaper in the UK


Can't guarantee that it's true but from my personal experience 'local' coins are more expensive in those countries where there is a decent collectors community.
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Are these coins easy to find in this grade in the UK and are they expensive? Or are they like US classic coins are here which IMO tend to be way overpriced?


There's certainly more choice here in the UK. So it wouldn't be difficult to find an example.

As to overpriced, well I always tend to think that the prices of British coins in the US is high. But of course it's all relative.

A coin like the one Valecrucis posted would be between £100 and £200 ($160-$320) or so I would guess.

Many of the coins I buy (similarly shillings, but of James' son Charles) cost me between $110 and $300. All reasonable (to my eyes) examples.

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