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Toned 1872 Seated Dime

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I've been collecting a lot more ancient coins than US coins lately, but after a year of collecting I've had a shift in my mindset that instead of just buying things I like I will now be more patient and only buy coins that I really love, I'll buy less coins, but i'll like them more.
As a tribute to that sentiment here are some photos of what I would consider the gem of my U.S. collection, the toning has to be in the proper light to appear, so I will show photos of it with and without the proper light. Please enjoy and give me your feedback! I'd also be interested to hear the grade you give it.
Here it is without proper lighting.
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And here it is with proper lighting.


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 Posted 11/14/2014  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(I had a lot of trouble photographing these due to the toning, the toning on the obverse is significantly brighter in hand)
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That is a fine looking coin. That one mark above the head is the only blemish I see. Nice buy! nlp
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That is one nice coin. I agree some coins know how to drive me up the wall as far as photographing them. (and they are usually my best ones)
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Looks to be in the Almost Uncirculated (AU) range.
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At least AU-58, nice coin
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Gosh, I hate to even say this and I'm probably wrong, but does anyone think it's been cleaned?
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cleaned or rubbed with a cloth at least
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Well that's unfortunate that it's been cleaned, I didn't pick up on that. We all make mistakes though, curious what makes you think its been cleaned? I would like to know more about how to spot things like this.
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Notice how the fields are much lighter. And on your first reverse image, notice how the wreath at 1 o'clock is much lighter than at 3 o'clock
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Ahh makes sense, I figured the fields being lighter was just a product of the toning, now I know what to watch for in the future. I still feel like I got an ok deal, I got it for XF-45 price. At the time I thought I was super lucky, now it seems that I probably just did ok. Thanks for the help.
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If you look at the fields with a loop, you might see scratch lines. It could have been an old cleaning, but I still believe it has been cleaned at one time.
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What I saw in the first reverse image were the 2 areas above and below ONE DIME that looked rubbed. Hard to find a coin 100-200 years old that hasn't been cleaned at some point. A nice coin.
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I'm undecided about surface originality. Seated stuff does enigmatic and occasionally glorious things with toning, behavior one doesn't seem to see in any other series. Whatever it is, I like this one a whole_bunch but wouldn't hazard a guess between AU-MS without it in hand. Too small to be sure from images without really high-res work.
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I see what you mean edweather, I see those two spots as well, I really can't tell for myself whether it's cleaned or not, and frankly because I never intend to sell it I don't care too much. As to whether it's MS or AU it's hard for me to tell as well, the only thing is maybe I can see a tiny bit of wear on Liberty's head, so I'm not really sure either.
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A tough one to grade from these grainy photos. Not sure the coin has been cleaned, the toning in the photos with the good lighting looks natural. I'd guess AU-58 on this one.
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