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1916-D On Ebay

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-D-MECU...331385770044



I have been looking a tons of 1916-d online before I make a purchase.

does anyone know how many different the mint mark locations / dies where used.


so for fun I been trying to detect real ones versus fake/altered

I believe this one to be fake. But I just want to double check to make sure I was right in my conclusion.

besides private auction - red flag
and old reviews of counterfeit coins

This one I assume has altered mint mark that is chased?

1916-D-On-Ebay

below is a real mint mark

notice the triangle like inside

1916-D-On-Ebay

below another real one with MD also has triangle inside and same mm location.



1916-D-On-Ebay
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 Posted 11/18/2014  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A high value coin not in a TPG holder = red flag
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 Posted 11/18/2014  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also note that the inside of the "D" on the fake is even BUT outside there are bunches of die scratches.
That could not happen (and I'm not even going into the source of the die scratches).
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It is also not in the right position. It's a little too low.
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It is also not in the right position. It's a little too low.

However, remember that back then the mint mark was put on separately. And if that Mint worker had a liquid lunch, the Mint Mark could be almost anywhere.
That 16D and the 1909S VDB Cents are the most counterfeited coins on Earth, I think. I purchased a 16D Merc, not long ago for $5. And it looked as good as any I've ever seen.
A dealer at a flea market was selling those and many other faked coins. I really liked his 1943 Copper Cent but someone else got that one. He suddenly vanished lately.
I really think anyone buying a 16D Merc not in a slab is really just taking a chance. And a poooooooor one too.
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I agree Carl. And also with your assessment that this one is fake OcalaFL.
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About the WORST fake D I've seen.
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DO NOT buy a raw 16-D..especially on ebay.
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I will most likely buy a slabbed 1916-d but I would like just for learn enough to spot a real vs fake to add to my numismatic knowledge.

ebay is not all bad I found several raw unslabbed varieties on there

i seen magic coins, added mint marks, modified S mint marks
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Interesting how the seller only sells tools, rare currency errors an 1916-D dimes and 1909-S, 1909-S-VDB, 1931-S, and 1914-D LWCs and 1909-S IHCs. All red flags in my opinion, including the harsh way the seller treated reports of counterfeits in his feedback, which I will not show here to keep this site family friendly.
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I always buy my Mercs PCGS/NGC graded & slabbed from reputable dealers. There is nothing as bad as buying a fake coin and paying top dollar for it.
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I need a 1916-D for my Dansco album. My plan is to find an affordable AG in a reputable TPG holder and crack it out. No way will I buy this coin raw and I also plan on inspecting the TPG holder VERY carefully for signs of tampering.
If you buy it slabbed Ocala, give that holder a REAL good inspection and verify its serial number with the TPG.
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That's a fake, search the internet and find out what the triangular shape of a real 16-d should look like
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Private auctions = red flags

Bad Feedback = red flags

High dollar coins that are not TPG'd = red flags

Bottom line? Don't buy high dollar unslabbed coins off of ebay.
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