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Constantine II - Victoria Caess?

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Hello!

Can you tell me the RIC number of this coin?
I could not find...
Obverse: CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C
Reverse: VICTORIA CAESS
Weight: 1.19 gram
Without mintmark!!


Constantine-II---Victoria-Caess?


Constantine-II---Victoria-Caess?

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 Posted 11/20/2014  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well this should be RIC VII 65, but there should be a mint mark of .TS.B. there for Thessalonica. I could be imagining it but I see what looks like some letter there.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baltas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse is different!
VICTORIA CAESS
and not
VICTORIA CAESS NN
:)
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Constantine-II---Victoria-Caess?

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 Posted 11/20/2014  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is from Rome, RIC VII 142

Rarity rating of R5

Congrats on this find!!


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 Posted 11/20/2014  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where did you find the reference? I checked several resources and couldn't come up with it.
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Thank you! :)
I'm very happy! :D
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Here is an image taken from RIC VII, Rome, with the relevant reference. I may be mistaken, but is the reverse actually more like RIC VII ROME 140 regarding the legend breaks? Yes the obverse is like 142, but...?

Constantine-II---Victoria-Caess?

Btw. Here is the part of the key to the obverse types that applies here:

Constantine-II---Victoria-Caess?
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 Posted 11/20/2014  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I'm going to have to use my RIC catalogs more often, I'm just too lazy to search through them.
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My coin is RIC VII 142 I think also!
Because the 140 obverse legend is: CONSTANTINVS AVG
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IMO, bust is B4 Laureate draped and cuirassed and the legend break is definitely VICTOR-I-A as you can see the "I" is clearly seperated between the wreath and head, thus RIC 142

@echizento, it is listed on helvetica's pages too so you can still be lazy like me
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No question the bust is B4. The reverse legend reads VICTOR - I - ACAESS as in 140 though; not VICTOR - I - A - CAESS as 142 suggests. The actual representation of Victory does seem to be as described for 142 however, with Victory seeming to be advancing not standing. So it seems to be a bit of a mixture of elements to me.
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Gee, I checked there, missed it completely.
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Val, 140 lists the legend as VICTORI-A which it clearly isn't as the "I" is separate from the "A"

In both cases it is ACAESS but for some reason RIC denotes that in two different ways, one with a 'space' and one with a 'dash'
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 Posted 11/20/2014  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baltas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And 140 is a coin of Constantine I NOT Constantine II. :)
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Yes that is right BD. I missed that 140 showed the VICTOR together with the I and was thrown by the two different ways of showing that the A is conjoined with the CAESS.

My mistake then....it is a clear 142. For the record though, I never did say it actually was the 140 itself.

...and I did say I might be mistaken! Oops!
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This is my rarest coin!
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