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Tiffany Coin, Step Down...the Secrets Of Pena Palace Is Here

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I know some CC members here enjoy owning or at least knowing about new high quality modern coins like the Tiffany coins.

Every week I'm looking at different coin dealer's websites. Yesterday I found a brand new coin release from the renowned Mint of Poland. The astonishing coin is called the Secrets of Pena Palace, and it's a very high relief coin made with new technology.

Whether you like this coin or not, I'm curious to know....but please first watch the video of the actual coin (below).

Here's an HD video of the actual coin...look at the detail - you'll be floored as I was I believe:

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Features of the coin include:
- " 3rd coin of the very low mintage "CRYSTAL ART" Series
- " Maximum mintage of 688 coins in the world
- " High ultra detailed relief - higher than Tiffany, Mineral Art and even the previous coins of this series
- " New innovative minting technology called ArtCam
- " Spectacular high polish green agate inlay
- " Brand new obverse and reverse design
- " Minted only once a year
- " Certificate of Authenticity

The only U.S. dealer that I can find selling this coin is First Coin Co. here: http://firstcoincompany.com/S/niue-...-finish-2-oz

Here's some pics:

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Ultra detailed and high relief casting minted onto reverse of coin

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Pena Palace

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Actual Newt sculpture on Pena Palace

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Super detail on obverse of coin
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11/23/2014 12:10 am
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I like the detail of it, it might bring mints to have better designed coins when they know it's more than possible.

The design of the coin itself, a bit gimmicky with that green thing in the middle, and the queen's head just stuck in the middle randomly.
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I agree that setting higher standards with coins like this is a good thing if it will inspire other mints to also up their standards.

The mineral inlay is inspired of course by the now famous Tiffany Art and Mineral Art coins that have become so popular among collectors of these types of highly detailed, high relief architecture coins. All the Tiffany Art and Mineral Art coins also have an emblem, effigy, or coat of arms of the country they represent....since Niue is a possession of the British Commonwealth (I believe), the Queen's effigy is required on all coins bearing that country's name.
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I wish the mints of the world would stop calling these things coins and market them for what they truly are - medals. Calling this a $2.00 coin is absurd IMO.

As far as the "innovative minting technology" that enables them to produce a piece in "high ultra detailed relief" - medals with higher relief have been struck for centuries. There's nothing new here - just exaggerated marketing hype!


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I think it's beautiful and well designed plus I adore the polished agate inlay, but I would *never* call such things as this coins. I don't think it's really a medal either. It's more of a 'round metallic hybrid art piece' in a category all its own. Adding '2 dollars' to a thing like this is, indeed, just a bunch of spurious marketing hype aimed at coin fanciers who are too attracted to round shiny objects.
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Commems, while you may not like it, the fact still remains that these are coins. get used to it.

As for the technology, the innovation that you are clearly misunderstanding and misrepresenting is not just the high relief, but the extreme detail that has not been achieved by your illusory coins from centuries ago.

I think you should buy 1 or 2 of these coins and perhaps you will forever overcome your errant anger toward
the production and offerings of modern collector coins. :)
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Quote:
As for the technology, the innovation that you are clearly misunderstanding and misrepresenting is not just the high relief, but the extreme detail that has not been achieved by your illusory coins from centuries ago.

Yeah, you're right. I've really got to educate myself and stop believing in illusions such as the following high-relief medals. It just causes me trouble.

From 1989:

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From 1951:

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From 1927:

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From 1906:

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From 1883:

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I could go on, but why?


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Terrific medals but A) for the most part the combination of very high relief and very fine detail on the Pena Palace blows these away B) the medals you have posted have not been "struck for centuries".

Nice try though.
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Coins should have collars to confirm that they are coins. This looks cast...
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@mmissinglink: As it appears you prefer to disparage vs. engage in a factual discussion of engraving and minting technology over time - I am leaving the discussion to you. Farewell!


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Coins should have collars to confirm that they are coins. This looks cast...


Interesting point, but by your logic, where does that put this "coin" (which was also cast):

http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/about....VHLA4YtUPts
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That would be known as a million dollar advertising token ! Sure would be heavy handing out those as calling cards! I will take three please! !!
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