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Valued Member
Poland
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please help with ID. Condition is poor. It was covered with a thick green patina. I cleaned it in oil, electrolysis than silver cleaner mixture. It doesn't look like bronze coin, rather small probe silver I guess. Only letters I can see is V S P F(?) diameter - 15 mm (0.590 inch) pretty thick     |
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Valued Member
 Poland
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PS. I see a figure on the reverse
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Poland
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Pillar of the Community
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The AV following the VS PF is clearly visible as well, but it would be more important to make out the letters on the left.
Would not discount though that it is rather an N than a V before the clear S.
Postscript:
Definitely not RIC#1717 - different reverse.
Edited by Medieval
11/29/2014 08:36 am
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Valued Member
Poland
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 better photo of Roma |
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Pillar of the Community
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Still can't match that to the seated Roma - where would the exergue fit in?
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Moderator
 United States
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My eyes aren't that good so I can't make out who it is. One comment I do want to makes is. You should never use electrolysis to clean coins it eats away the metal and pits the surface.
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Valued Member
Poland
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 what do you think? Electrolysis is the last way to clean coins, when oil and other chemicals don't work. And it doesn't destroy metal. Everything except metal (patina, chemical products of corrosion). The pits are remains of products of corrosion. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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If it's thick I don't think it can be silver. Siliquae are thin coins. My guess is that it's a Valens AE-3 GLORIA ROMANORVM struck on an undersized planchet. What looks like VS on the obverse legend could be NS. The split in the legend does match a Valens' obverse legend. Coins subjected to electrolysis can come out looking silver. The reverse could be the emperor walking right, holding a captive by the hair and holding a labarum in his right hand. It looks like you can see the RVM on the right side of the reverse, which would fit with the MANORVM there on this coin. The vertical line on the left of the reverse could just be a mark on the coin. That's my best guess. http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/for...Default.aspxPaul Bulgerin
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United Kingdom
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I was thinking the reverse is upside down and is the right way up in the first post. you would then have a soldier type figure hold a spear/staff on the left and resting on a shield to the right. something maybe like this http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/049/049i.htm ? (no idea on which emperor though) HH |
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The more I look at the remnants of the left-side obverse legend, the more I think it fits Honorius a lot better than Valens.
So could just be a Tesorillo 49 directly.
What it 100% definitely is not is silver.
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Obverse legend is wrong, sorry. Besides, I'm pretty sure it's Honorius, like in this mock-up:  |
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Posted 11/29/2014 08:13 am
