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Another Fake 1922 No D.

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Seems like there's a new one every day. The old staples make this tempting, but it is a bad copy, probably cast. The "L" in LIBERTY is nowhere near the rim...it should be attached

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-PLAIN-...S:SS:US:1120
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Looks pretty sketchy. Nobody in their right mind would sell one raw like this with such bad pictures, unless it was fake. It could have XF details. I see someone also retracted their bid, probably realized it's too good to be true.
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It has to be authentic, the staples are rusted. That would take decades in Chandler Arizona.

But seriously, there is no way with that sharp of obverse details. More ebay bidiots schooling around another obvious fake.
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I know it's like preaching to the choir, but hopefully it will keep someone from making a mistake.
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Some idiot just flushed 360$ down the drain.

Private auctions are another clue to phoney coins listed on ebay.
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Makes me wonder if I should try selling off all my 1921D Lincoln Cents on ebay?
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t has to be authentic, the staples are rusted. That would take decades in Chandler Arizona.
I wouldn't put it past these guys "aging" the staples with chemicals to make it look like from an old collection...
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C'mon everybody. 17 bidders can't be wrong!
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that coin screams fake, but having said that, maybe would have bid on it when first starting out.
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No surprise, ignorant buyers get what the deserve but crooked sellers don't ever seem to....the buyer will probably leave glowing feedback.
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No surprise, ignorant buyers get what the deserve but crooked sellers don't ever seem to....the buyer will probably leave glowing feedback.


I wouldn't be so harsh on the bidders. Some casual collectors aren't aware of the scams out there. This person feels they got a 1922-Plain penny, and they feel it's worth $360. They're never going to try to sell it, they're never going to have it slabbed, all they're going to do is feel good about it, and enjoy showing it to their friends, and perhaps enjoy telling the story behind the 1922-D/Plain penny.

I have a 22-Plain in my collection that I got from ebay (for much less money than this one), and for the above reasons, it doesn't matter to me if it's really a fake or not. I would take exception to someone calling me an idiot or ignorant. To me, it's real, and that's something to be happy about!
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Yikes! Sorry. Are you serious, or was the whole last post done tougue-in-cheek. Maybe it's late and I lost my sense of humor.
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I wouldn't be so harsh on the bidders. Some casual collectors aren't aware of the scams out there. This person feels they got a 1922-Plain penny, and they feel it's worth $360. They're never going to try to sell it, they're never going to have it slabbed, all they're going to do is feel good about it, and enjoy showing it to their friends, and perhaps enjoy telling the story behind the 1922-D/Plain penny.

I have a 22-Plain in my collection that I got from ebay (for much less money than this one), and for the above reasons, it doesn't matter to me if it's really a fake or not. I would take exception to someone calling me an idiot or ignorant. To me, it's real, and that's something to be happy about!


So, in a nutshell, you're saying it's perfectly acceptable to buy and sell fake coins?

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So, in a nutshell, you're saying it's perfectly acceptable to buy and sell fake coins?


Not at all. I was responding to the comments that the bidders were fools for bidding on this coin. Certainly, it's a shame that fake coins are out there, and the sellers who knowingly sell fake coins should be arrested.

But not all collectors are aware of these scams, and it's not due to a lack of intelligence, as some people here are saying. They just don't know. So let's run the scammers out of town, but don't denigrate a buyer's intelligence just because they're excited about getting a cool coin and don't know that it might be fake. It reeks of a holier-than-thou attitude. It's the sellers who are the idiots, not the buyers.
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and it's not due to a lack of intelligence


Well, yes it is. Ignorance would be another word for it. Not a sin to be ignorant, but maybe to stay that way, it is. Very foolish to toss big $ at something when they don't even know what they are buying. At best, it's a lack of wisdom.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

It takes two. If there weren't foolish people out there buying this stuff, those sellers would be out of business.
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