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Einzee New Member United States 2 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 03:20 am I found this one on a roof that I was working on. A local coin shop said that there are 3 languages on it. Another said that it may be a "Military" coin. I dont have a clue. It is slightly larger than a U.S. nickel and weighs 4.4 Grams. Edited by Einzee 09/10/2007 03:26 am Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16816 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 04:46 am We recently had a member post a similar looking coin in this thread. His one was made of copper, and deduced to be a fake. As to what it is, it's a very early Spanish piece, issued in the time of King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella (of Columbus fame), sometime in the period 1469-1504 (coins back then didn't normally have dates on them; we often can't be any more precise than that). Judging by the weights quoted by Swamperbob in the other post, I'm not sure whether it's a 1 real or 2 real coin; your weight falls in between the two. Unfortunately, 1450-1600 is still largely a gap in my coin knowledge - The only books I have covering it are for dollar-sized, gold and British coins. Swamperbob is the expert in Spanish coins, particularly at telling whether it's fake or fair dinkum. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Einzee New Member United States 2 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 07:27 am I apparently do not qualify to email swamperbob. could someone contact him and let him know of this thread. thankyou. Report this Post to the Staff
triggersmob Pillar of the Community Australia 9386 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 08:44 am E-mail sent to Swamperbob. Steve Report this Post to the Staff
valutarick Valued Member Netherlands 376 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 08:50 am This is an original Spanish coin when it was born. I believe it was worth 4 or 8 reales. But it has a marking at one side of the coin, which tells me that it was confiscated by Dutch Rebellion Troops, and used as legal tender throughout the Netherlands. Maybe this coin was transported to the USA aboard the Mayflower in 1620. Report this Post to the Staff
Bonedigger Pillar of the Community United States 1267 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 09:00 am Here is a 1711 Spanish 2 Reale which KINDA looks like the one shown. I'd venture to say based upon it's size in relation to the nickel it's a 1 Reale. Take Care Ben Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 09:31 am Sap you are correct - this is a duplicate of the coin from the earlier thread. I did a side by side match to compare the blundered legends and they are identical. So unfortunately it is one of the Modern Tourist copies most likely made before 1984. The color makes it look more like brass than copper. Image Insert: The coin at the right is the one from the earlier thread. It is in my collection now. The one one the right is from this post. They are not just the same type - they are IDENTICAL. I hit the wrong button and posted this before I was finished editing, but if you look at the two pictures above, you should be able to see that the letters match. Since these letters are fantasy shapes, the coin is a match. Also notice the deep square element at the center of the shield. All features (most importantly including all the errors) match. It is too bad that I could not upload the full size shots because the detail is better. Edited by swamperbob 09/10/2007 09:37 am Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16816 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 11:02 am Thanks, swamperbob. I didn't want to condemn it outright, because I'm unfamiliar with the series and don't know what a genuine one is supposed to look like. I did some checking on CoinArchives and couldn't find a 2 reales, but I did find this 4 reales from the same series. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 09/10/2007 7:57 pm SAP - if you notice the legend on the 4R that you copied from the auction records uses standard latin lettering. The fantasy copy uses shapes that are not actual letters. Report this Post to the Staff
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