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Mexican Coin 1854 ?

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Mexican-Coin-1854-?
Hi out there. Can someone tell me,where to place this coin.
I searched NGC and other places but I can't find this coin.
To me it looks like Mexico 1/2 Real Z (Zacatecas)1854 OM but I can't find any coins from this mint with that particular year. Ist it possible,that I'm reading the year wrong since it looks like it has been altered. Please advise.
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12/12/2014 05:38 am
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 Posted 12/12/2014  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My Krause (Centennial Edition) has KM#370.11 for 1/2 Real with Z & Zs mintmark from 1826 to 1869.
This includes 1854 OM and 1854/3 OM.
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 Posted 12/12/2014  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I often use a website called Numista to look up world coins. Here is yours: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces31297.html

Kadang terkagum2 saya, lihat uang kuno dari jauh, bisa sampe ke mana aja. Ini misalnya.

Sorry, couldn't resist. It's just not often that I see someone from Indonesia on forums.
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Thanks guys,I looked it up.Nomination,mint and year do exist but
reverse design is completely different from what I have.
Any explanation for that.

As for SlurExe97 : Saya expat yang tinggal di Indonesia dan dapat
warisan koleksi koin kuno cukup besar. :-)
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First off, welcome.

Looks legitimate to me, certainly is catalogued as noted above. Not a rarity. I'd say it'd grade in the VG range.
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I agree with the VG range but still,and sorry for insisting, if I open
KM#370.11 a different design appears. How come and are there records about different
designs for this particular Coin,year,mint or design?

Non memini :-)
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 Posted 12/12/2014  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldsovereign to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I forget my manners completely...
Thank you for welcoming me at CCF
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At Numista I found following Note : overdate variety exists.
What possibly could be the original Date and how would it implement the value of the coin?
It seems,as further I get in this 'Mexicans' as more confusing it gets....
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Here is the NGC database entry for your coin; it copies the price info from the Krause catalogue. Unfortunately, they've got the picture wrong - the picture shown there is actually for a gold 1 escudo, not a silver 1/2 real. But as you can see, the presence of the overdate doesn't make it more or less valuable; the prices for the two varieties of 1854 coin are the same.
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Warisan yang menarik!

I hope you will enjoy your inheritance, they're interesting little pieces of history, coins.
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Thanks a lot to everybody who helped me out on this,it's a great feeling
being in a community who responds to issues and questions.
That there is a wrong picture in NGC is to say the least 'unfortunate'
since worldwide people relay on the data on this site.
From my side,I still have a lot of different coins I can't figure out,where they
come from,in short : more to come :-)
Once again,thank you all
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