Need Help Iding 2 Chinese Chash Coins & A 17thc French Coin

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Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 12/16/2014 01:47 am Hi everyone, I could sure some help on these. both cash coins are blank on the reverses. I hope that the details on the French (or Spanish?) piece are clear enough to ID. Thanks! Edited by Archraz 12/16/2014 02:04 am Report this Post to the Staff

Medieval Pillar of the Community 3772 Posts	Posted 12/16/2014 02:12 am Apart from the second Chinese coin the pictures are not really good. That second cash is a "Ta-chung Yuan Pao" (1008-1016) from Emperor Chen Tsung (998-1022) of the Pei Sung. (Note: I use the old style transliteration.) All what can be said about the French coin based on the current images is that it is a "Double de Sedan". Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5172 Posts	Posted 12/16/2014 2:03 pm Well, apparently, not many of the Sedan types actually say Sedan on them, and this one has a clear large tower. So it's probably this type (Principality of Sedan, 1634-38). Chances are, the specific date is visible in hand, but I can't pick it out from the photo, unfortunately. I also have a Double de Sedan coin, ironically - but mine is the small-tower type (1638-42, Numista 54057). Report this Post to the Staff
manymore Valued Member United States 347 Posts	Posted 12/16/2014 2:49 pm Quote: That second cash is a "Ta-chung Yuan Pao" (1008-1016) from Emperor Chen Tsung (998-1022) of the Pei Sung. (Note: I use the old style transliteration.) I agree that the second Chinese coin was cast during the years 1008-1016 of the reign of Emperor Zhen Zong (Chen Tsung). However, the inscription reads xiang fu yuan bao (ç¥¥ç¬¦å.ƒå¯¶). The "old style" transliteration would be hsiang fu yuan pao. Are you sure your reference says "Ta-chung Yuan Pao"? I don't think that could possibly be correct. The inscription on the first Chinese coin is huang song tong bao (çš‡å®‹e€šå¯¶). The coin was cast during the years 1039-1054 of the reign of Emperor Ren Zong (1022-1063) of the Northern Song Dynasty. Gary Report this Post to the Staff
Medieval Pillar of the Community 3772 Posts	Posted 12/16/2014 3:15 pm 'january1may', as you probably know the denomination Double de Sedan was not only used in Sedan itself but by many of the Feudal States and for Royal issues as well - so really need to be able to read more of the inscription. 'manymore', you are right - the year title was "Ta-chung-hsiang-fu" and the latter part was used on the coins, so "Hsiang-fu yuan pao" is what I should have said. Report this Post to the Staff
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