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2004 2 Dollar Coin

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 Posted 12/19/2014  7:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Xanonite to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This one caught my attention in a roll right away because it almost looked like a silver quarter (from the side). Don't know if it is missing plating or it is a wrong planchette. The weight seems right, but the color is very bright, the rim very thick, and just appears like it was made different. Any ideas?

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I appreciate all your help.
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 Posted 12/19/2014  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Xanonite..You got the same one I had a year ago...its counterfeit..let SPP guide you through what you should do..ok

Here is the one I had.


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 Posted 12/19/2014  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, looks like a fake from the "montreal mint", there's 2004 and 2005.
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 Posted 12/19/2014  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob Levi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I had a 2005 faker but my teen took it and spent it(dummy). I just found another one the other day. It had the same markers as the other I had. I heard there are 04's out there too.
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 Posted 12/19/2014  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Electrolysis method fake---dead giveaway is the micro bumps.
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 Posted 12/20/2014  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Xanonite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Got this one from fresh bank roll. Thanks everyone for the replies! Good way to find out what to look for in a fake. Oh, and happy holidays, merry christmas, happy festivus!
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 Posted 01/02/2015  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vancouver IslandCoinKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow I love it! very interesting! notice the inner brass and the nickel ring connection and the lettering the rim and the tiny dots. Excellent example, no doubt a keeper.
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Excellent example, no doubt a keeper.


Except... keeping this is illegal in Canada.

https://goccf.com/t/146468
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Is it true if the words "fake or replica" are counter stamped on the coin, that it would then be legal?
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In the US, on a US coin, then yes - as part of the Hobby Act. In Canada, you can stamp whatever you want on it, it will always be illegal, unless you remove the entire word "TWO DOLLARS"...
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Stamp a scrub off the and stamp a 0 on top of it so that it reads "0 Dollars"

So, if you sand off or do whatever to remove the writing "2 dollars" while leaving everything else intact, then it is legal to own?

Or if someone made a toonie-like thing but it says "no dollars" or something like that, it's not illegal?
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I thin you can slab them now as an example or educational but why waste the money.

http://www.icgcoin.com/about/the-ho...rfeit-coins/
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SPP-
This 48 fake dollar was on ebay for sale and was stamped
"COPY". I bid on it but lost out. If what your saying is correct and I had won the bid, then it would have been illegal for me to own it? This is not the only one that the seller had for sale.

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Most people here know "Nickelsguy" is the fake expert frustratingly fighting crime on ebay and such for years now (and hats off to you for that Mikey), but I read in one of his articles about the huge collection of fakes he has. How does that work, special license or something?

@ JimmyD can you give us a link to this seller?
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 Posted 01/03/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The single string of pearls on the fake toonie is a dead give away.
All fakes should be cut in half and thrown away lest they make
their way back into the system. If they can do it for contraband
firearms then they can do it for coins. Many fakes available.
Justice system should be doing more on this.
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01/03/2015 09:55 am
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This is the link.
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The seller was quite open about it being a fake as he stated it was a brass cast imitation in his description.
If it was illegal to sell, I'm sure he was not aware of it.
Guess I'm glad I didn't win the bid.
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