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What's Up With Uncleaned Coins/Electrolysis?

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I just bought a little electrolysis kit thing off of ebay, and I'm also waiting to see if I win the bidding for 10 uncleaned coins at $23.

Any advice on working with this stuff? Never done it before. It looks like fun.

Here are the coins I'm bidding on....





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12/20/2014 7:28 pm
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 Posted 12/20/2014  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you have a burning need to use electrolysis, just be aware that it will likely destroy your coins. It strips of the patina as well as the crud. Those coins certainly do not need electrolysis, just soaking in (my preference) distilled water, other people use olive oil. A gentle brushing from time to time and change the water when it becomes cloudy. It takes time, but that is what collecting ancients is all about.

I would throw it away.
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 Posted 12/20/2014  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scottk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update...

I won the auction. Hahahha....
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Yeah, electrolysis will make every one of those worthless - it will remove the patina, which after 2000 years will leave a pitted smudged mess. With the correct cleaning, you'll have some nice coins at the end, certainly in excess of te price you paid and some will have excellent detail. Use the electrolysis on pennies and things, but not these.

For these, the best option is to soak them in DW for a bit, then put them in olive oil for a while. If you feel confident, a steel pin can be used, with caution and patience.
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 Posted 12/20/2014  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best try your electrolysis kit on some MS-65 modern coins first.
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Try distilled water or olive oil soak, and then use a toothbrush on the coin and a toothpick to get rid of the big or stubborn chunks of dirt. Looks like there are some nice coins in there!
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 Posted 12/20/2014  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scottk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really... hhm...

Ben, what about a steel pin? You mean to pick at the stuff that's on the coin, and try to pull it off?

I would never throw this kit away though. I won't use it on these coins, but there are many other experiments I can have with it.

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You can use a steel pin with a blunt tip as well, but then you need to be very careful. Safer with a wooden or plastic instrument.
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I've tried using a steel pin on uncleaned ancients before, it scratched them up. This method is not for the novice apparently, I'd stick to something softer. I'd rather have the cleaning take a long time with a good result, or have the toothpick break instead of having the coin get scratched.
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If you have never cleaned ancients before, start gently. Bamboo is good, or plastic. Once you have had a bit of practice you can move up to metal. I use a scalpel with a curved blade and I use a stereo microscope to see what I am doing. It can take from hours to months or even years of soaking and picking to finish a coin. Patience is your greatest friend here. Get yourself a cheap toothbrush and cut the bristles down by half. Soak, brush, soak. And keep going until you have the result you want.
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Yeah, brushing as 'pishpash' said might already provide you with a good result on some of those coins.
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Do not use electrolysis it will destroy the coins. Follow the advise that others here have given you.
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If you want to know how 'Electrolysis' is viewed by the majority on this site I refer you to the post "Have several coins to clean..including a Byzantine."

It is NOT a cleaning method of choice by those that do know better, for very good reasons.
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