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Hi folks - I find coins like this one from time-to-time. The coins look like impaired proofs but are coins struck from LDS/VLDS dies. This 1965 is one of my more recent specimens. You'll note on the reverse that the Monticello is dull and lacks details (e.g. steps aren't visible and that area looks like a worn coin) but otherwise has proof-like luster and sharp lettering. Flowlines are visible throughout the fields. I'm sure a bunch of you have stumbled across these on your own CRH events. Do you know what we're looking at? Thanks!   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***Moved from forum -- Jbuck |
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In this case, I believe it would be called "obverse struck through"....I have graded quarters like this.
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Hi CPC - I had considered that and over polishing but with the other details so crisp, I kind of felt it might be abrasion. But grease might better explain why it seems isolated even if it doesn't look like the Greaser nickels I've found in the past. It does in many respects look 'proof-like' for the period and I'd guess I have three or four 60s Jeffersons that look this way. From arms length, the luster and sharpness smack of high grade coin but under low magnification, anomalies and defects appear obvious. Thank you for the input! |
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I have a few similar coins with the problem area near the steps of Monticello--had always assumed it was a result of using worn-out dies for too long. Clearly quality was not a chief concern from 1964-67, and the strikes are extra strong to make these coins more durable. If it were a genuine Greaser, I would expect the wear to be much less uniform from coin to coin. My guess would be over-used and over-polished dies to make ends meet during budget cuts. |
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Old but freshly polished, maybe light striking pressure?
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Hi folks - good theories. The crispness of the letters make me think it was a good strike with a rough die. But to Dave's point, a weak strike is most obvious towards the center of the coin. And perhaps this is why there is disparity from the center to the rim devices. Excellent food for thought!
So let us assume Dave is right. Why the irregularities in the field surface with the flow lines and swirls? Pressure related as well or die condition? Thanks for the input!
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At the very least older reverse die. Might be struck through a bit as well. But mainly old worn die IMO.
As for flow lines, dont they get worse the older the die? At least thats what I seem to remember.
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I believe you are right. Flow lines become more obvious. So a weakly struck LDS reverse die? Or a weakly struck EDS/MDS reverse die with grease/abrasions/both on the Monticello? The outer devices don't smack of LDS/VLDS as they appear crisp.
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