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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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i don't believe it would be a cameo, I see no reflection in it. my rule of thumb is if you can see yourself in the reflection at 10 inches it will be cameo..
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Pillar of the Community
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The reflection at 10 inches has nothing to with a coin being Cameo. Cameo is the frosted contrast of devices and fields. ICCS uses Cameo , Heavy Cameo and Ultra Heavy Cameo depending on how heavy and complete the frosting on the devices including lettering.
Definition of a Cameo coin- light to moderate frosting on all devices
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12/28/2014 8:22 pm
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Canada
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I concur with Pacificoin. The coin is uncirculated, but with bag marks. These coins can even be found with similar weakly struck features in prooflike strikes. The older Elizabeth effigy is even worse for weaker strikes.
The cameo designation is pretty subjective... it truly is a matter of contrast.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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It doesn't reflect... because there was nothing to reflect except for the ceeling when I took those photos. Sorry for the horrible photo on this one - not easy to hold a phone, a bookmark, and a light source at the same time while the phone is charging (not to mention the short cable).  I don't have the money to slab it as of now, but the guys on here are good, I trust their grading by photo. Just look at their "You vs TPG" threads. So, everything about grading is subjective, is it? |
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Hey!! Is that the rare 1967 Garfield ghost dollar?  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like my Garfield bookmark has become a sort of a running gag now You can't hide from Garfield, he's everywhere!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It would be natural to assume that the typical grade range for almost all of them would be high AU to MS++/, because they are essentially NCLT.
I expect the most common grading would be around MS62 for an individual coin.
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So, everything about grading is subjective, is it? That seems to be the case. For example, I have seen coins on ebay that have been "cleaned and dipped" and still hold their grade. I don't understand how a coin can get a "MS64 cleaned" grade, when I am told that cleaning a coin devalues it. The coin in the picture is in "as found condition" and the consensus on this thread is that it is a pretty good grade, where some people would only offer junk silver price for it.  |
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Canada
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Im not sure if a unit of measurement could answer the "how much frosting" question as a lot of times its based on the graders opinion if I'm not mistaken...same situation on the "eye appeal" of a coin, no real way to measure it....
Its simple, if the bust is "more" frosted than the field, its cameo.
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The "brightness" of the coin, could also be related to the condition of the die. Coins struck by brand new, or newly polished, dies can produce results that look completely different from coins struck by older dies.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Just as an FYI (Re; slabbing this coin). I think this is one of the most grossly overpriced coin currently in trends (along with 53 mule nickels). It's market value at MS65 is well under $200 vs trends at $450.
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Pillar of the Community
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Coin hunter agreed on the MS65...... as I stated earlier exploded in pop numbers over the last few years in MS65. The coin is very tough in 66 though. The large open fields make this coin tough to find with few marks.
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I remember collectors paying north of $1000 for this same coin, in ICCS MS-65, about 5 years ago...
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Pillar of the Community
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In tonight's TCNC Christmas Sale $250.. for this coin in ICCS MS65 . The more they grade the cheaper they get ! I think there might be a lesson in here?
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