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Fake Trajan Decius Aureus.

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 Posted 12/27/2014  5:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ave ! A friend of mine was thinking of buying this coin http://www.ebay.com/itm/249-251-A-D...em3f438117f9

I told him not to go for it due to the seller (who I have heard is not very good) and because it looks like a modern reproduction. Was I right ? As always thanks.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty good match to http://www.forgerynetwork.com/asset...vzwu8xZ4Mqk=
Methinks you gave your friend good advice.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am relieved that I was right but flabbergasted that this coin has 45 bids and is being sold to people.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With 45 bids to have reached the current level, it was posted as a bargain - tricking people into bidding.
No proper attribution for a coin of that value should always raise a red flag.
Hope someone notifies ebay - I personally are not registered there.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't be confused by the 45 bids. There are only 16 different bidders (at this stage), and there is no count on how many of those are 'shill' bidders who bid the price up for the seller.

In no part of the carefully worded listing does the seller claim that the coin is 'Authentic' or 'Genuine'. This allows him to sell 'Replicas'.

Undoubtedly Saxby's do sell some genuine coins (I have bought notes from him) but he does have a history of selling some coins that are described as 'fakes' so I wouldn't take the risk at the high end, even with the protection of 'Paypal' and ' ebay' because of all of the 'jumping through hoops' that you have to do to get the refund (that doesn't cover all of your costs).
Been there!
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 Posted 12/27/2014  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even if there were a chance it is real, buying from questionable sources is only going to make you question your collection later, so whether or not that specific coin is real you still gave your friend good advice.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller says it all Saxby. ebay needs to wise up and pull this seller, it's not helping there reputation by letting him stay.
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Thanks C1530 , he said he would take me out to diner for saving him over $1000. And I agree Echizento , this is ruining our hobby. This is the exact reason I only buy from local dealers and from Vcoins.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent in a fake report to ebay, sadly they probably wouldn't do anything about it.
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Why ?
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 Posted 12/27/2014  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller is a charlatan. Enough said .....
As I found out myself this month to the tune of $298 ebay does not give a rats #&& about crooks. They will gladly let someone sell the same item twice and keep my money !

You bought a coin last night from one of the best dealers in the world.
If you ask Antonio to find you a coin like this I am sure he will be very helpful.
He does actually answer his 'mail' and is a very sociable person.

unlike some of the slimy weasels !

This past year I purchased a coin after an almost two year absence and he messaged me asking why I had not been bidding !
I answered honestly that he had been getting some very impressive prices and that being a 'bargain hound' I had been looking elsewhere. After your Claudius find I will have to be more diligent about watching his sales.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that sucks FR. For reference I purchased the Claudius As from his(Antonio's) Vcoins site. He has a few other Claudius As coins there if you are interested.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am afraid to look ! I need to sell some of my trash (on ebay !) to pay off my credit card bill this next month.

But I will look anyway ..... thanks

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 Posted 12/27/2014  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I were to bid on this piece, I would want it to be XRF'ed to verify it, looking for trace metals, not gold. The ancients knew nothing of electrolytic gold refining.

Why on Earth would a seller put up such a highly potentially valuable genuine coin, without a provable provenance?
Without such information, this piece HAS to be considered to be suspicious.
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I think FVRIVS RVFVS summed up the seller very well. And yes this sale reeks of suspicion, but hey my friend didn't lose $1000 and I get a free lunch tomorrow so I can't complain.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it ended at £2650, that's over $4,000.
Disgraceful.
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