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I got a 1996 and 2004 toonie in my change today. After eyeing the 2004 rather suspiciously (since I've never gotten one before), I did a ring test on both those two coins.

Guess what? The 2004 rings OK, but the 1996 sounds weird! It rings lower than a Shannon toonie! I tried to make it ring by throwing it very hard but it still sounds the same.

It looks normal with a some coin roller scratches, not weird at all. The core is unpopped and unpoppable (by me at least). Might it be an off-metal strike?

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could it be.... a fake?! from China?
They've begun making fake bimetallic Euro coins.
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I don't think so, it looks too good and the fact that it got rolled it has to be real, right?
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Do you have digital scales to weigh it on, and compare to a normal Toonie?

It kind of has the look of fake coins that I've seen (from other countries and denominations). Are fake Toonies known to exist in circulation in Canada?
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Fake Toonie factory in Montreal.

https://goccf.com/t/52421

Font looks fat on DOLLARS and CANADA. Rim too thick.
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I thought they only made 2004 and 2005 and you can pop the core out. I don't have a scale, and I doubt the post office is open today since it's a holiday.

It looks okay, it feels okay, the only thing that's off is its ring. I just tried the wall, it doesn't work either. It's magnetic.

My artificial lighting pics always look bad, here's better pics. The freak (can I call it a freak for now?) is on the left and a far less worn 1996 toonie on the right.

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Looks fine as to being real. Just abused along the way. I have a sneaking hunch that the core was popped at one time and put back. Most of us played with at least one when they came out. Use yours on a Timmies! Have a good one !
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If it's been popped before, it should be easy to pop it back out again right? This toonie is a guinea pig now.

I've always wanted to pop a toonie core out but I never succeeded yet. I've tried these is different combinations: put it on top of my heater and immediately dunking it in ice water and hitting it very hard or throwing it. No luck.
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Freeze it and then try to pop it out,
the centre may have different shrinkage than the rim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:T...centres.3F_2

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I've put it outside my window. I'll check back in an hour to see if it pops.
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I can just see you throwing this poor toonie around...
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It doesn't work with my thumb. Maybe I need a hammer or something.

I've been throwing it around since yesterday because it sounds weird It still sounds weird.
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You could try a socket from a socket set and a hammer. Just make sure the socket is the same diameter as the core and brace the outer core against something solid, then whack away.

I found this core in a roll of pennies.

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Could be a German versus Canadian planchets, that you are comparing with each other...
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I've never found a toonie core, you're lucky! It would be very fun if I have any tools here. (Might not be fun for the coins.)

I don't know how to tell those two planchets apart but since they have the same composition, wouldn't they ring the same too?
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I also have a toonie outer ring somewhere that I bought at a flea market with some other junk, so now I have both but not from the same coin. When I first found the core I wasn't sure what it was , its smaller than a penny.
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