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Unidentified Coin Found In Turkey

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 Posted 01/07/2015  10:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add grantmillie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Not sure if it is real or fake but I haven't been able to ID it. Any ideas?

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Might very well be genuine, but not willing to guarantee it since you said 'found' in Turkey (how did you find it?).

Would be a coin from Constantius II with fallen horseman reverse. Can't determine the mint, the mintmark would be on the bottom of the upper picture (the reverse).
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 Posted 01/07/2015  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the coin was found in Turkey, there is a stong possibility that it started life in the Cyzicus Mint.
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Thanks for the quick replies, it was found off trail in a ruins area around Wadi Rum. The reason I question its authenticity it the coin is very thin metal. The pictures I see online of the CONSTANTIUS II seem to have a little more substantial thickness to them. Additionally, where you referenced the mint mark should be is rubbed off which seems a bit suspicious.
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You coin is of the Roman emperor Constantius II 337-361 AD, it's from a series known as the Fallen Horseman. The reverse depicts a warrior spearing his enemy that is falling off his horse. This series first appeared circa 348 AD and was used on coins of several of the late emperors. IMO the coin is real with a nice sand patina, which indicates that it was buried in sand of very dry earth. I can't see the mint mark which is probably covered by the dirt.

Obverse legend: DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG
Reverse legend: FEL TEMP REPARATIO ( Happy times )
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grantmillie: Can you post a picture of the coin from the side? A lot of these later empire coins are smaller than you might think...
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And specify the diameter.
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Thanks all for the replies, great community. Here are a couple more pictures as requested. The diameter is about 3/4 of an inch.

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Thickness is okay for a coin of that period.
Everything left is to brush the reverse a little (especially the bottom part) and you might reveal enough of the mintmark to determine the mint and thereby get a full attribution (apart perhaps for the officina).
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Looks fine to me also. So much history in these little coins. Congrats on your find.
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If it were my choice I would not clean it ( I am a sucker for desert patinas)
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Any idea on value? I don't plan to sell it, the value to me is in the story (and now you are all part of it) but I just wanted to know if it was of significant value I would store it a bit differently than I do now.
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They are coins of this type on vcoins for under $40 . I would pay up to $25ish It is a very common issue , and from what I have heard this issue was very popular with the military and civilians .
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