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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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NOT worth $300+, especially not in that slab.
Edit: Well, I'll be more reasonable here. The coin itself may be worth a decent price, but I (personally) would stay away from that coin because it is in that slab.
Edited by Cruisinfusion
01/11/2015 9:42 pm
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I see cleaning hairlines on the reverse.
Edit: I'll also give you credit for taking on this coin.
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01/12/2015 09:47 am
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That's about as well-struck a 1921 as I've seen. Wow. ACG weren't bad graders, so the grade might well be righteous. Both the Matte and Satin Proof 1921 dies were also used to strike Business Strike coins which was standard Mint practice, so there's no reason to brag on it. The Satin die set is VAM-1H, and is believed the first Business Strike dies. The Matte set is VAM-1F, the obverse of which was used on VAM-1G. 1F and 1H are on the Elite 30 list from Dr. David Close.
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I compared the Heritage satin proofs and few were this well struck. Yes it's cleaned. But I'm not reselling. When it gets here I'll be looking for the die polishing scratches.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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I wouldn't resell it either.
I'd return it.
But to each their own, it's your money.
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Alan Hagar/Accugrade still causes loud knee-jerk opinions 30 years on. The nicest thing I've heard is that Alan could grade (you have to be able to grade to consistently overgrade by a constant margin). And today we call it market grading and ignore the fact that PCGS' 30 year old XF is todays high AU. Anyway, ignore them, buy the coin not the slab. FWIW, this is Conder's ACG25: Quote:
24. The front is identical to ACG 21 except that on the front lower right corner of the slab the logo ACG now appears in distinct raised letters. All of the small sized ACG slabs Except #9 actually have the company logo in this location but it is normally very faint and not clearly visible in the textured surface of the slab. On the back the registered symbol is very clear, close to, and a little more than three fourths the size of the letter E. This variety was put into use beginning mid March 2001.
25. A minor change to ACG 24. The registered symbol is slightly more than half the height of the letters. This is the same as the back label of 21. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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I compared the Heritage satin proofs and few were this well struck. Yes it's cleaned. But I'm not reselling. When it gets here I'll be looking for the die polishing scratches. Thg, I congratulate you on this purchase. It is refreshing to see someone actually buy the coin and disregard the slab it is in. |
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Both sets of Proof dies struck Business Strikes with a ton of visible die polishing. This one needs to be in hand before any conclusion about surface originality can be made.
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Thanks everyone. I'm hoping the scratches are on the holder but not holding my breath. Here's another proof die 1921 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-Peace-...em4d2b9d9e2dGood photos are diagnostic here but my coin didn't get them. And priced accordingly. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Frankly, I like your chances of getting exactly what the label says you are. Check out VAMworld for the varieties I mentioned, so you'll know what pickups to look for when you get it.
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The coin arrived. The diagnostic proof die cleaning scratches are present. The coin has not been cleaned and has partially toned gold color. Every eagle feather is struck on the wing next to the leg. Every hair strand that I know of is present. The coin has been banged around some and shows contact marks so the MS62 is realistic. All I wanted was a full strike. I could do better for $40,000 but this is good enough.  I could use a better camera too...you get the idea anyway... "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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01/17/2015 4:33 pm
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How does anyone know if it is struck from Proof Dies? Only the mint would be able to verify that
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well peldini, think about it for a minute. if youre holding a proof coin and the same coin but a business strike and notice a certain group of die scratches of the proof coin and then see the exact same group of die in the exact same spot on the business strike you know that the die struck both coins because those scratches are unique to that die.
btw thq, nice score, it looks great.
Feel free to call me Will.
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How does anyone know if it is struck from Proof Dies? Only the mint would be able to verify that We know the tiny little marks in protected areas of the dies, identifiers unique to that specific die. This is a fantastic strike. Which die pair? |
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