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Possible 1864 L Cent?

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 Posted 07/25/2015  06:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canary01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

A local auction house has this 1864 cent coin for sale. The auction house doesn't state it as a 1864L but to me it looks like it is. What do you think of it?

Photo's are from the auctionhouse's website

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07/25/2015 06:41 am
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 Posted 07/25/2015  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it. Go for it!
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 Posted 07/25/2015  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I can see the L, and look at the 1 in the date, it looks doubled.
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 Posted 07/25/2015  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canary01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@edweather, I didnt notice that doubling before, thanks! Do you think that adds to the value?
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 Posted 07/25/2015  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1916 D Merc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is probably an RPD and would add some value depending on which Snow variety it is. Good Luck!!
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 Posted 07/25/2015  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This almost looks like an S3, but the date position is slightly different. In the S3, the tip of the flag on the '1' does not extend beyond the end of the pointed bust. Your coin does just slightly. I could not find any other matches in Snow's attribution guide. So either it could be a newer variety that is not in my guide or one that has not yet been attributed. If no one else can find a matching Snow number it may be worth sending your coin to Snow.
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It almost has to be S-3. There is no 64-Plain with a date positioned or doubled like that, and no other 64-L with similar positioning and doubling either. Maybe just lighting?
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 Posted 07/25/2015  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coinfrog, you could be right. It does closely match the S3. But if it was my coin, once I got it in hand, I would definitely take a second look and compare it to an S3.
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The problem is trying to see the clear relationship between the flag of the numeral 1 and the point of the bust, I think. I mean, a lot of '64-Ls have this sort of doubling, and the S-3 is very cool but is not worth a big premium. I would love to see a sharper close-up from the same distance with no side lighting.
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Looks like S3 to me. I would let Rick examine it regardless.
Where is the auction house located?
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 Posted 07/25/2015  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty close to an S3, not a perfect match but dang close.
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 Posted 07/25/2015  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if it's not a match, then we have something pretty unusual here.

Anybody have any other possible matches?
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It's certainly a match to S-3. The picture is just rotated more clockwise than the picture in the Snow guide. Date position relative to the denticles also lines up fine.
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 Posted 07/26/2015  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canary01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot for all your help!
The auction ends next weekend so I hope I can make it mine
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I won the auction for about $35 including all auction costs etc.
Here are some better pics of the coin and the date

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Yep, Beagle nailed it, S3. You stole it for that price, wtg !
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