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I have a very rare Canadian coin. I know it will shock a lot of people. some will think it a fake others will be totally surprised. it has been weighed and looked at with a electron microscope to the extent of 500x zoom. so I can tell you it is real. I have been made a couple of offers on it and I can tell you, the offers are very large. I would like to see what the members of this forum thinks. the penny will be going to the big coin show in Toronto around may the 14, 15 I would very much like to see what your forum has to say about this coin. 
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How, if real, would it have gone through an upsetting mill and only show a rim only one side? Almost forgot  to the CCF!
Edited by amida17 01/15/2015 6:08 pm
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i think the obv has been sanded off
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but if you know some buyers let me know,
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the picture is what it is just to depict what the coin should look like. because the reverse was never struck. only the obverse which was king George the V struck on this coin and put into circulation, if I could add more pictures I would do so.
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I will have a table at that May show in Toronto (Coin Expo), and have handled many Canadian 1-cent errors. Look for the sign at the show that matches my avatar here, and bring the coin by - I would love to examine in hand. Other dealers will probably direct you, as I tend to help many of them with mint errors.
From what I can see from here, I am skeptical. The reverse shows all the signs of being struck on a Type II planchet, fully in collar, yet the obverse appears to show that this was struck on a Type I planchet. I too have access to an electron microscope, and I don't think that instrument would be definitive as to this being real or not. You have to think about these questions:
- how do you explain the fully rimmed reverse, while the obverse does not appear to be rimmed? - there is no evidence of the collar die on the obverse (blank) side, yet the reverse is rimmed and not broadstruck? - what is the diameter of your coin? Type I blanks have slightly larger diameters. - what possibly got between the anvil die (obverse die) and the planchet, in the coin press, as to not even leave any evidence of its strike? Even coins struck with blank planchets underneath them, will show a ghost effect from the flow of metal.
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OK - I just saw your second post - please post a photo of the obverse side of your error...
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It doesn't look real to me. There are 2 types of unstruck errors: one being an unstruck blank (Type 1) and an unstruck planchet (Type 2).
It has no rim, which is characteristic of a blank. However, blanks are larger than their planchet counterparts. Your "unstruck penny" is the same size as a normal penny, so it cannot be a blank. Planchets have a raised rim created when a blank is passed through the upset mill. Your "unstruck penny" has no rim, so it cannot be a planchet either.
I am sure this is not an unstruck error.
Can you post pics of the other side and the edge too, with another coin as comparison?
Edit: I must be typing really slowly. I didn't see SPP's post when I was replying...
Edited by Altaira 01/15/2015 6:03 pm
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how do you add any more pictures without taking away what has already been posted?
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I thought the obverse was blank.. 
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ok so its the rev that was sanded off then ans the 1920 was for comparison right?
Edited by gidjit 01/15/2015 6:35 pm
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