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I bought two 1987 Proof Like Nickel Dollars, this one
pictured has doubling on the reverse legends. See the
pictures, comments welcome, I think it is machine
doubling. Scratch on plastic going through
the D in Canada. Why doubling on only legends and date?     Edited by SilverDon
01/16/2015 1:30 pm
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Looks more like a Proof-like strike to me, not a proof strike.
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is there a die crack through the D in Canada or is that on the plastic?
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No die crack ace_ftw, just a line in the plastic, checked with the loupe.
Yes, SPP it is proof like, sorry for that, title and original post edited.
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01/16/2015 1:32 pm
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I'm looking at this on moile so I can't see the douling clearly. Proof-likes are struck twice, so it can also be flat field doubling.
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 I'll make a note of this, in my files on the series... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Great SPP, I was looking at the obverse with the loupe and there is obverse doubling on the legends as well. Not sure of the significance. Hard to photo nickel, went old school, tripod and diffused sunlight. Here are some obverse pics. In the first picture, the E L I in Elizabeth doubling can be seen.  Look at the DG REG area in the second photo.  |
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I mistyped "mobile" up there... Really need to proofread when I'm on mobile. SilverDon, if you have a good loupe, stick it on your camera lens and you can take great closeups. I took this with the help of a 10x loupe, original size without being optimised is 1730x926 px. A bit more difficult with a shiny coin, but I successfully took a few pics of a PL half here so it's not impossible.  This dollar must be feeling pretty sliced up  there are several that goes right through the queen's face. By the way, here is the error-ref page for Flat field doubling, so you can compare it to your coin. |
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Thanks SlurExe97. Tried that with my wife's phone tonight, would likely be easier in sunlight and you need three hands; one for the loupe (20X), one to hold the camera and one to push the bloody button. OK I'm old. But the pictures are not bad for a rookie. So I don't know what it means in the grand scheme of things, both sides are doubled. Machine, hub, field, will narrow it down with more study. In this case the first strike is not pushed down to the level of the field, so not flat field doubling, it has the characteristics of Machine Doubling. Steps are noticeable, and the second strike makes the letter smaller by shaving some off as a result of movement between strikes of either the planchet or the die. http://www.error-ref.com/machine-do...e-same-coin/    Edited by SilverDon
01/17/2015 7:27 pm
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those are good photos, I would be happy with them!
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Not bad eh VancouverIslandCoinKid, have my geology hand lens and a Samsung phone,
seems like a mix of the new and the old. Fumbling around and all thumbs. Should
be an app for a super zoom with those cameras. But not bad in the end. So what
do you think of the error on both sides of the coin. How'd it happen?
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01/17/2015 7:44 pm
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I know how awkward it is to hold the loupe and the camera at the same time, but your photos turn out great! Definitely better than my first ones Looking through my mobile again now, and I agree the obverse looks like MD. If you can get pics like these of the reverse too, it would be perfect to determine what kind of doubling it is. |
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Edited by SilverDon
01/17/2015 10:22 pm
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Why aren't the northern lights lines,
which are right beside the legend,
N in CANADA doubled, chopped, shaved?
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Those are excellent pics, you're getting the hang of it quickly! I'm back on my computer now. I can see doubling on the 8, second A of Canada, I think they are MD, not totally sure but the 8 looks MD. I'm not sure why it only affects a few elements |
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his dollar must be feeling pretty sliced up, there are several that goes right through the queen's face.
SlurExe97, those are rolling marks created on the rolled metal strip, prior to the planchets being punched out... quite common on 1968 dollars. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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