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NJ Bob Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 3:41 pm I've decided that I want to assemble a complete set of Native American dollars (2009 to present)and what I believe constitutes a complete set is the following: 2009P position A business strike 2009P position B business strike 2009P position A satin 2009P position B satin 2009D position A business strike 2009D position B business strike 2009D position A satin 2009D position B satin 2009S proof 2010P position A business strike 2010P position B business strike 2010P position A satin 2010P position B satin 2010D position A business strike 2010D position B business strike 2010D position A satin 2010D position B satin 2010S proof 2011P position A business strike 2011P position B business strike 2011D position A business strike 2011D position B business strike 2011S proof 2012P position A business strike 2012P position B business strike 2012D position A business strike 2012D position B business strike 2012S proof 2013P position A business strike 2013P position B business strike 2013D position A business strike 2013D position B business strike 2013S proof 2014P position A business strike 2014P position B business strike 2014D position A business strike 2014D position B business strike 2014S proof I come up with 38 coins in the set though 2014. I'm not done finding the coins I need for this set and I've found it to be a bit of a challenge to find all of the position A's and B's as few people seem to acknowledge the difference. What do you think? Am I missing anything? Report this Post to the Staff

KevinH Valued Member United States 172 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 3:52 pm Since, according to The Mint, the positioning of A vs. B is a random occurrence, I would think that would give you an "out" to ignore the distinction between Position A and Position B coins. That's what I would do. But it's your collection. I know many people are not fans of the Prez. dollars and the Native American coins, but I find the designs interesting. Kevin Report this Post to the Staff
NJ Bob Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 4:15 pm I don't really care for the Presidents but I do like the Native American dollars. I think the designs are the best of all current US coins. As for the random occurrence of position A and B coins I think the fact that the mint intentionally issues them that way makes them worth collecting. Report this Post to the Staff
SteveCaruso Pillar of the Community United States 1796 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 4:26 pm Aye, the designation of A vs B originated as a mistake and speculation on the part of TPGs. The proof coins are only supposed to have one position, as it's imprinted during the strike as part of the collar. For business strikes, they can fall into the edge letterer (a separate step) in either direction. It's literally a "coin flip" :-) The TPGs mixed this up and started designating A vs B thinking that it was a genuine error (that it was like the proofs) rather than a 50:50 occurrence. They're not a true "variety." Edited by SteveCaruso 01/18/2015 4:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff
AlbumAccumulator Pillar of the Community United States 653 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 6:38 pm I thought about including the A&B coins but decided against it since it is random by design and I'm not specializing in the series. If I were it would still be cool to include 1 of each and a real challenge to locate since many dealers do not specify the positions. I would also include the 2014D EU coin as well. Report this Post to the Staff
NJ Bob Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 7:26 pm Quote: I would also include the 2014D EU coin as well What is the 2014D EU coin? Report this Post to the Staff
AlbumAccumulator Pillar of the Community United States 653 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 7:35 pm The Enhanced Uncirculated Coin from the 2014 Coin & Currency Set. Report this Post to the Staff
denco7 Pillar of the Community United States 2543 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 7:38 pm It was part of last years coin and currency set. Everyone thought that it was just another late year fill in by the mint, a native american coin and a 2013 series one dollar bill. Then as people ordered it , they realized the mint snuck in an enhanced uncirculated NA dollar instead of a regular business strike. The only EU Native American dollar, Only the third EU coin ever and only 50,000 minted, makes this a very hot coin right now. Report this Post to the Staff
NJ Bob Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 8:02 pm I missed that one altogether. I guess this is like the 1994 and 1997 Jeffs issued as part of the special coin and currency sets. Thanks. I'll need to add that to my "complete" collection. Edited by NJ Bob 01/18/2015 8:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff
NJ Bob Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 8:05 pm Wait. If it's an enhanced uncirculated coin does that mean position A and B? Goodness sakes, what have I gotten myself into? Report this Post to the Staff
AlbumAccumulator Pillar of the Community United States 653 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 8:22 pm There are A & B versions of this coin. I kept 1 of each just in case. Report this Post to the Staff
NJ Bob Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 9:05 pm Quote: There are A & B versions of this coin. I kept 1 of each just in case Good move. The Native American dollar coins are turning out to be a more challenging set than I originally thought. So with the 2014D EU position A and position B there are actually 40 coins in the 2009 to 2014 set. Report this Post to the Staff
KevinH Valued Member United States 172 Posts	Posted 01/18/2015 11:52 pm Quote: I don't really care for the Presidents but I do like the Native American dollars. I think the designs are the best of all current US coins. I agree with you on the NA designs. They are interesting in their variety and so far have been well-executed. My daughter, who is 10 years old, loves the "Sac and her baby" obverse, and she and I both like the "three sisters" reverse, because it's so important to the development of native culture and the survival of early settlers in America. She also likes the 'doggie' reverse I remain a fan of the prez dollars, too. Some of the portraits are weird, though, and even though the Statue of Liberty on the back is OK, I don;t care for the reverse; I wish they had used the original Sac dollar reverse with the flying eagle.... that was cool. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188026 Posts	Posted 01/19/2015 09:37 am I cannot see the edge lettering when the coin is in a Dansco, so I do not care about A/B. To be honest, I do not really care about P/D since the mint mark was moved to the edge. If the reverse did not change every year, I would have just one and call it complete. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
stampvirgin Pillar of the Community United States 1247 Posts	Posted 01/20/2015 7:21 pm I wanted to collect Native Americans, but my wife said, "no", "I can't handle one, why would I want more?". Report this Post to the Staff
Celticsoul Pillar of the Community United States 1566 Posts	Posted 01/20/2015 8:10 pm Hey stampvirgin. Do what we all do, try to convince the Wife that coin collecting keeps you out of the bars! Report this Post to the Staff
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