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1971-S 5 Cent Jeff Proof W/ Dropped Letter?!!

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 Posted 04/24/2022  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bestjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man JDRMCP, this is a sad ending, (hopefully not), to a very excellent story. I hope some day it'll be recognized and it'll be like the $1.7 mil penny. Good luck and keep the faith.
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 Posted 04/25/2022  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JD, I am a retired MD. I practice in West Germany, US and Canada. No system is perfect. You focus on your field, ignore the system and be for your patients. If you go to be frustrate with all kind on organizations, union, insurances company or pharmaceutical you will be out of your life and the patients who need you will be alone.

The years I work the collecting was my relax. 10, 12 or 16 hours some days with 8 to 12 hours OR I needed. so coming home I took 1 or 2 hours with my stamps. coins, notes and porcelain. Was my relax, my recuperation (except the frustration of my wife).

For your coin now: First: IMO your coin has the origins on the Die Hub. For me is obvious that those marks was on the die. Me I discuss only for the U. The Dies for proof are never re-polish and are use very shot time due to the fact strike 2 time each coin. Second : you has the confirmation for a brother of your coin with same marks, so this confirm that the Die make those traces. The wall of accepting new varieties is high (mentality and commercial thinking). Third: If the second find like this exist, are mean an maximum of 5000 coins could be (5000 is the max for proof coins to be struck by an Die in that time).
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 Posted 04/25/2022  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not saying it's the same type of issue by any means because yours def looks more like some sort of doubling but they both share the distinction of being somewhat uncommon head scratchers for the most part. I was told that my example is a form of erratic die failure caused by some foreign debris entering the striking chamber and breaking apart leaving corresponding damage on the die face causing raised "gouges"on the coin. The big difference between our posts is that mine evolved from the unknown right past the healthy debate into some testy exchanges between myself and pretty much everyone else, including some guy named Mike Diamond. Obviously I was right and everyone else was wrong. But that's how you learn. I also forgot to add previously in this reply that another similarity is the fact we both came up with dropped letter as a guess as to what the issue might be because ..... also please note that this reply is me attempting to make fun of myself and I am well aware of who Mike Diamond is. Again, sorry for hijacking this post through a post edit but seeing as how.it originate like 7years ago, I figure what could be the harm.

http://goccf.com/t/380409
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04/25/2022 11:27 am
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 Posted 04/25/2022  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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mine evolved from the unknown right past the healthy debate into some testy exchanges between myself and pretty much everyone else, including some guy named Mike Diamond. Obviously I was right and everyone else was wrong. But that's how you learn.


@ WAY: you confound the apples with potatoes. Your coin from point of view of collectors is 5 cent. You have the fish who pay for, happy for you.

This coin seem to be complete other thing, and I think could be an hub die variety. Your is far from.

Other thing: what is your authority to come here and insult peoples? Mike Diamond is one of the bigger coins specialist in life in US. All the TPG and all associations recognize him and ask his opinions.

Hope you understand where you stand by.
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 Posted 04/25/2022  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have answer from the collectors net. Other two coins like this are know. One in Mexico and other in Alberta, Canada.
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 Posted 04/25/2022  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol. I'm pretty sure the first sentence in my reply clearly stated that I by no means am trying to say these are similar events. I was just trying to point out the fact that they are both uncommon regardless of value. Everyone for some reason keeps bringing up the potential value of the coin in my post even though I never asked for opinions on potential value and clearly stated I've never sold one of my finds nor would I woth said nickel. I was also trying to make an attempt at self deprecating humor by pointing out the fact I was kind of getting frustrated and responding in the same because it seemed like no one was reading my original post stating that the areas on my coin were in fact raised and I did all the normal tests to make sure it wasn't glue, incused, etc. I also am very familiar with Mike Diamond and the fact I made it sound like I was clueless to his gravitas in regards to the hobby head another miss at humor. I forgot context is easily lost in this format. I d oappreciate the feedback but if you read my original post thoroughly, like no one else originally, save for a few, then maybe I wouldnt have felt the need to hijack this post.
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 Posted 04/26/2022  05:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No one else wants to chime in with an opinion? I dont care if you agree with me or not. I just like the constructive criticism.
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