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1971-S 5 Cent Jeff Proof W/ Dropped Letter?!!

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I was looking through some old proof sets for errors and I initially found a 1971-S five cent DDO so I cracked the set open to get it and when I was carding up the rest of the coins I discovered this nickel.

I have never seen anything quite like this before! I don't know what kind of error you would even call this. There seems to be a raised partial U (or other partial letter) in the middle of the second U in UNUM on the reverse! The closest error that best describes it to me would be a "dropped letter error".

I'm hoping someone can tell me exactly what I have here and it's rarity.

Any and all information will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

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That's quite interesting... is it raised metal like the rest of the letters?
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Yes, it seems to be the same height as the rest of the lettering on the reverse.

Here is another image I converted to a monochrome topographical view of the area in question by using an app on my iPad. Most camera filters you find in the App Store are purely a novelty item, however, I have found a few that can be extremely useful when attempting to photograph certain aspects of a coin.

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If it's raised, that implies some sort of flaw in the die. Which would mean there are other examples from that die pairing out there somewhere.
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Interesting coin ... wish I had the expertise to explain what you are seeing.

Agreed ... this is unusual.

Waiting for the error experts to come along.



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Looks like it was a piece of lamination was on the "U" and peeled off?
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The extra raised device seems well struck and fully attached to the field and upon closer examination, all of the other letters on both the obverse and the reverse seem to be intact and not missing any parts. I also cannot find any planchet flaws other than the unexplainable "rim rings" as seen on nearly all of the 1971-S proof nickels.
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Would a TPG be any help with this?
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Looks like another piece next to the "M" on the second image, that is not there on the third image? It looks like a peel off of a device some where on the coin?
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could be "hubbed through debris", which always shows as a raised line. Rare, if so. The 1971-S Proof Eisenhower dollar has this on the so-called "Night Crawler", with a raised line of metal near talon.
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This is pretty neat.
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It looks like it came from the circled area.

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Interesting. The topographical app is coming up with the right general interpretation for the wrong reasons - it's evaluating how light hits the target to successfully determine what's positive and negative, but concluding wrong about the insides of the letters which ought to be the "tallest" things in the view.

Definitely a positive, though, which means it had to be a negative on the die.
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Thanks everyone for taking the time to help me try to solve the mystery of this true enigma!

All of the subsequent posts each of you have made are ALL valid, very logical and possible ways in which this unusual coin could have been come to be.

However, as all of you would strongly agree, without having the coin in hand, it's going to be impossible for anyone to tell me exactly what it is.

So if any of you guys have extensive knowledge in error coins, the right equipment and the resources, not to mention the time, or know anybody that does, I would really like to send it to you/them for attribution, with compensation.

If anyone would be willing to take a closer look for me, please let me know and I will mail it to you ASAP!

Once again, thank you for taking the time to reply!
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Looks like the coin is still in the sealed cello. So the peel bay even be from the other side of the coin. But I don't feel it is a die issue, just a flake off your coin or another one that got into the packaging of your coin.
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A 71-S doesn't come in cello.

It is interesting. It does appear to be raised (Which eliminates a dropped letter, they would be incuse) If it isn't something simply stuck on the coin a hub through does seem to be the most likely explanation. Just surprised we haven't heard about it before. Of course it might have been noticed right away and most of the coins from that dies destroyed.
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