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2x2 Holders....how Long Are They Good For?

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 Posted 09/23/2007  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW 7070! That's awesome! I never even seen a 2x2 like that.
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 Posted 09/24/2007  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To answer in a reverse post method: Learjet has sort of hit the nail on the head. In reality, over the years there have been many varieties of 2x2's produced and the properties of them varies with the manufacturer and time frame. I've had coins in some for well over 20 years and no problems. In the past many types of plastics have been used. Some may well be PVC. Some plastics do not last long at all. If you were around with some convertible cars in the 50's and 60's, the rear plastic windows would eventually turn yellowish, dry and crack. Just that type of plastic. Mylars have life expectancy of 1700 years so if your 2x2's are Mylar, they should be safe for about that long. The cardboard also is different with different manufactureres and the time frame but since it does no contact the coins, makes little difference.
Jim1953. I presume you mean a Copper coin that is now green. Note that the term Verdigris is used by many to discribe Copper turning green when in reality, Verdigris is Copper reacting with an Acetate, not normal air/moisture. What you have seen is Copper Carbonate which is normal when Copper is exposed to CO2, H OH and O.
ElleKitty: Great suggestion. However, pliers are on the market with such flat tips and even ones that are hindged so that they close straight, not on an angle. Also, here is another tip. If you have the standard Swingline Brand Stapler. Note that most models have a removable plate where the staples hit. This is made so you can make the edges of the staples go in or out. If you know how to make a new flat plate to put in that location, the staples will be flattened by normal pressure of installation. Problem is the direction of the tips are not predictable.

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 Posted 09/24/2007  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sllyonsjr421 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
7070 Did you actually get that 3 legged buffalo for 10 bucks? Wow I wish I was born about 30 years earlier!
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NO, it was my Grandmothers, and sad to say, the missing leg had "help" leaving the coin. I always assumed it was real until I took pictures of it several week ago. The close ups clearly show the tool marks. that is why I left it in the old holder. it is more of a keepsake than a collectors coin.
I posted the closeup pictures on the error forum (topic: is this a 3 leg?)
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 Posted 09/25/2007  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are correct, Carl. These are primarily Lincolns. What do you attribute the cause to. It seems reasonable to think that the color was caused by the contact or close proximity to the paper in the 2 x 2. Are you saying that something in the makeup of the holder caused the color change? I will try and post some pics tonight but scanning the edge of a coin may be easier said than done.
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Ive had some problems in the past with the cardboard "dust" causing spotting. But I found if I use a soft cloth to wipe them down before mounting the coin I haven't had a problem since
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I use compressed air like they sell for cleaning computer keyboards to get rid of the cardboard "dust". I also found that the more expensive 2x2's don't have any dust at all.

Instead of pliers to flatten the staples I use hemostats (since I fly fish I have about 6 pairs around the house). The small size helps me to only flatten the staple.
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