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What Happens If You Don't Return Littletons Coin On Approval

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 Posted 01/29/2015  01:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jaycurrency2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I used to get littletons coins on approval and wondered what happens if littleton sends you a bunch of coins and currency they want say $200 for and if you don't pay and keep em?

Basically what happens if you keeps the coins without paying?

Thanks.
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I believe they charge your credit card. They give you a return envelope so it doesn't cost anything to return them and they are also good about cancelling the auto send if you ask them. No sense in keeping the $200 in coins because they are only worth $50 tops.

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I simply requested a catalog & they sent me coins. There was no postage paid envelope, so they were never returned. The bill was for $12. That was over 6 years ago & I still have them. I'm not paying postage to send back coins I didn't order. If they want their coins, they know my address. I'm patiently waiting on that envelope.
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There was a rumor going around when I was a kid, sometime mid last century, that if a company sent you stamps or coins on approval, that you did not request, you could keep them.
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 Posted 01/29/2015  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectorofcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you sign up for an "on approval" program, then you have to either pay or return the merchandise. But if a company just sends you something that you didn't order, and it's not through an "on approval" program you signed up for, then you can legally keep the merchandise. This is per the FTC.
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The only things I buy from Littleton are they're occasional specials (ATB's for face + free pennies, and the other good deals, etc)... For instance I sent the order in this morning for the bullion 2015 ASE for 18.90 free shipping, with the formative years 4 piece cent's for free.... Not too bad of a deal ..

I've often wondered about the additional sent coins... I always send them back as I'd assume they'd somehow bill you otherwise? I pay by check so I'm not sure how that'll work out for them if I didn't though? Not that I want them, they're low quality and extremely overpriced, and it's easy enough to send them back.. But? Again, I'd assume because in the add it said they'd be sending the "on approval" coins with the ASE there's be some recourse if one didn't send them back...? Lol
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Littleton's business model leaves much to be desired. It's pretty much exploitation and geas after geas. :-)
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When you order from one of their promotions, or request a catalog, if you read the fine print of the ad you will find that they say they will also be sending you selections on approval or something to that effect. So by ordering/requesting something you ARE agreeing to receive the approvals they are not unsolicited merchandise that you may keep. And back years ago when I got approvals from them they did NOT include a prepaid return envelope. You do, or did, have to pay the return postage.

If they have your credit car number and you don't send them back they might charge the card. If they don't they may dun you for a bit, they aren't likely to really turn it over to a collection agency unless if is a fair amount, but they may still report it to the credit bureaus where it could show on your credit report.
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I just sent it back and told them not to send anymore or they would be considered gifts. The bag that they had me ship them back seemed so flimsy that I wonder how it would make it back without damage. There was a super nice silver ike but too expensive..
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But I'm guessing if it's the first time they would likely not bother with it and just not send I you anymore and maybe invoice you. A unethical person would said if was lost in the mail. Now if you been dealing with them for awhile and they sending you large dollar amounts they might charge your credit card if they have your info or just send it off to collections.
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I guess the that the company knows of the risk of the non return of coins, if that is the business model that they choose.
I also guess that the prices on selected offerings have to be adjusted upwards to cover that risk.
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The thinkgs like the Formative Years coins are "free gifts" and don't need to go back. The others do. If you are not sure, look at the packing slip. It should just have the items you ordered and the free gifts. The coins on approval will be on another form.
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with Condor101 and Collectorofcoins but in Littleton's defense I've collected the complete Roosevelt dime collection. If a coin is too expensive I would look for it on ebay and usually buy it cheaper. I do the same with my Washington quarter albums. They usually have decent deals with coins to get you started with the album specials. I've never had a problem with Littleton except that you pay Top Dollar for their coins whatever grade you get from them. Knowing that be selective in what you buy from them. They usually have some decent deals but you do have to be selective and I will give them credit on one account....they do tell you that their coins are more expensive.
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If you don't return the coins they send the drones... they track the little rfid chips in the album and call in missile strikes...

It's theft... pure & simple. Just return them and ask for no more to be sent.
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I had the same issue with Mystic Stamp after my father passed.
They kept sending him stamps, and we didn't realize it for several
months. In all that goes on when someone passes, the envelopes
were mistaken as junk mail and advertisements. We started getting
bill after bill, and realized they were still sending us more and
more over priced stamps. It seemed like the more that weren't sent
back, the more, and higher priced shipments they sent! I sent back
everything I could find, along with calls and written requests for
the approvals to stop. They POURED in... For almost a year we were
trying to keep up with these things, as well as do the right thing
and pay for the ones that couldn't be accounted for. We figured if
we played ball, they would play ball too, and stop sending packages.

Finally, I invoked my rights as a USPS customer, and sent them a
strongly worded notice via registered mail, that any further packages
they sent were "unsolicited", and by law, if sent via USPS, we were
not liable to pay for said packages, or the contents of the packages.
The approvals went from about 3 a week to ZERO, instantly. We also
got a call from their customer service, who for a year prior didn't
return our calls... asking that we PLEASE be cool and send back the
4 packages that were still somewhere in the mail, on the way to us.
We did...
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Be careful about accepting coins through the USPS... It could be 'mail fraud'
if you were to claim that you never got them, or similar. If you accepted the
approvals, then do the right thing, send them back, with a notice that you will
accept no more. Once you do that, the USPS, and the law, is on your side, and
you can legally keep anything else they send. Morally might not be so cut and dry.
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