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 Posted 09/25/2007  01:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thought I'd be a little generous and write this evening.

This post is for those who want to know which rolls to be getting in Lincoln cents for your best chance of finding exciting and possibly profitable doubled dies and repunched mintmarks. I am not going to do this list in chronological order, it is in the order I would choose to pick them (top ten lists!), given an endless supply and all I could ever search...(my vault )

The "you should find something in these" list, from most likely down...

1. 1970S. There are a number of doubled dies for this date, any roll searcher would be highly unlucky not to find something out of ten rolls from ten different sources.

2. 1960D. Preferably large date. These are loaded with repunched mintmarks. Only reason I would not personally prefer to choose these is because I have been through tens of thousands of rolls of this date, and am pretty burned out on them.

3. 1961D. Exactly the same as my previous post, except there are not as many and not as nice. Still you'd be a very unlucky cat not to find something in ten rolls.

4. 1964. A number of different doubled dies, both obverse and reverse. Some of the reverse doubled dies are outstanding, and there are a number of them that are pretty neat.

5. 1963. For years these were the cheapest of the memorial cents. In fact, as near back as five years ago, these were still under 60 cents a roll bid. Very common, very cheap, and has some of the neatest doubled dies in the series.

6. 1964D. Same as 1964 only not quite as nice on the doubled dies. Thing is, these have mintmarks, and some of them are doubled pretty nicely.

7. 1963D. Quite a number of minor doubled dies, and who could forget the famous 3/low3 doubled die that is now bringing over $20 apiece? A few nice RPMs make these fun to search through.

8. 1972D. Hit and miss for doubled dies and RPMs, but if you hit something, you've hit nicely. Most BU examples of the die varieties in this date generally bring $20 or better. The fun part is that most people skip these in favor of their P mint brothers...little do the people know there are still doubled dies to be found here!

9. 1959D. Only because I am doing the top ten rolls you'll likely find something in...not because I necessarily like them. Anyhow, there are a lot of RPMs, some of them are nice. A few hit and miss doubled dies make this one a one in 20 shot.

10. 1972. Not necessarily for the big doubled die (most of these have been weeded out), but for its nine sisters. With many rolls already culled out for anything of value, your chances are a bit slimmer than they used to be, but so many people glance for the big ones and leave the minor ones...and some of those are the scarcest of the crowd. Die #4 is especially elusive.


The "long shot list"...


1. 1983. A few decent doubled die obverses in this group have skipped many a collector flipping them over to look for the giant on the reverse. They are somewhat a long shot, but you can't find them if you don't look.

2. 1985D. Tough rolls to find in decent shape, but the RPMs this date seems to put out are excellent! Only problem is, you'd be into it by 50 rolls before you should expect to find anything.

3. 1987D. Another one like the 1985D.

4. 1989. A pretty decent number of class 6 doubled die obverses make this one interesting. It's D mint counterpart has some listed doubled die reverses, and all the reverses were made in the same die shop...do the math. There have to be some out there.

5. 1995D. I like this date, but the doubled dies are very elusive. You'd have to go through a lot of coins to find the biggies, but they are expensive and nice once you do.

6. 1968D. This date has a surprising number of doubled dies, and the monster on the reverse is what you're after. Of course don't toss them out before checking for the doubling in the motto and the RPMs. About a 1 in 50 chance of getting a hitter roll.

7. 1959. Here and there you'll find a nice doubled die, but they are really just here and there. Maybe 1 in 75 or so, and they're not worth a mountain of money either.

8. 1971. A couple of really nice doubled dies makes this one worth the effort on a really rainy day. One roll I purchased a few years ago yielded fourteen coins from three different doubled die obverses. Probably a 1 in 100 shot, but this time it paid off.

9. 1966. I never liked these because finding any of the known dies is so tough...but they have to be out there. I know of three doubled die obverses and a nice doubled die reverse. Worth a shot if you're desparate. 1 in 200 shot.

10. 1969S. Can't go to sleep at night without peeking at a roll once in a while hoping to hit the big jackpot...but realistically, I don't think I ever will. There are six different RPMs known to keep me company though.


And now for the "don't bother list"...

These are all together, mainly because they either have nothing at all worthwhile in them, or the chances of finding anything worthwhile is such a long shot the roll prices would eat you alive before you'd expect to find anything worth more than you're paying.

1961, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1969D, 1970, 1970D, 1973, 1973D, 1973S, 1974, 1974D, 1974S, 1975, 1975D, 1976, 1976D, 1977, 1977D, 1978, 1978D, 1979, 1979D, 1981, 1981D, 1985, 1986, 1986D, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1993D, 1996D, 1997D, 1998D, 1999D, 2000D, 2001, 2002, 2002D.

Now...my list only goes up to five years ago because I still think the sky is the limit on coins up to five years old. Heck, we're still finding real good stuff in coins 25 years old! We can't possibly expect to have already found everything there is in the past five years. Word to the wise, though...don't waste a lot of time or money buying rolls from the past five years at a premium. There's not been a heck of a lot found.

As for all the dates not listed in any of these lists...here's the key. They're not special, so they're not on my hot list. They don't have anything huge for the date that makes them a special long shot...but they do have something in them, which keeps them off the "don't bother" list. A couple of "for instances"...

for instance...1967...has a decnet doubled die reverse to look for. When I get them as a throw-in, I look through them. Never know what you might find. But they aren't special, and really aren't worth jumping out to save.

for instance...1992D...sure, there's the 'fewer than half a dozen known' Wide AM reverse. Chances of getting struck by lightning twice on the same clear day are better than snagging a few of these in a roll, but they are out there.
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09/25/2007 01:27 am
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 Posted 09/25/2007  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brefos77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, thanks a million. I'll be printing this off and keeping it in my wallet, laminated! My first loupe is coming in the mail in a few days, so I'll be pretty busy.

To be honest, error and variety hunting is really all I can do as far as collecting. I can't afford all of these silver and gold dollars and certified graded coins. All I have is pocket change and sometimes a little luck!
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 Posted 09/25/2007  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool list Chuck. I too plan on printing it.
brefos77. if you plan on looking at a lot of coins don't use a loupe to long in one sitting. you will get very tired really fast and them small red dot's will hang out for days. believe me if you are planning on looking at a lot put a few bucks into it and get a scope. even a QX3 or 5 will work .i have a few loupes but I only use them if I just want to check a coin fast.
Good Luck
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 Posted 09/25/2007  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chuck,
I chuckle every time I hear or read anyone saying "you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning!" (not exactly what you said, but close enough. My crib was struck when I was six months old, and yes I was in it.
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 Posted 09/25/2007  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a million Chuck!

I'm truly surprised that all of these are memorial cents. I've been ignoring those and sticking purely with the "TOTALLY UNSEARCHED WHEAT CENTS". I think I'll branch out and start looking at the newer ones!
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CopperCoins:
Thanks for your time in putting this together.

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 Posted 09/25/2007  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent list! To drive you nuts as they were mentioned but I will add....there are 7 different, 1983 DDOs that I am aware of and about 30 different, 1989 DDOs :-)

Also, one I didn't see mentioned is 1980. There is a nice and valuable DDO to be found there. I heard a few years ago that someone is sitting on a few hundred of these but they are a tough one to find.

1982 offers a nice DDO

I might pick the 1985 and 1986 dated stuff as there are a few nice DDOs ( I know Charles has them on his not hot list but I've discovered a few new ones so I keep them on my hot list:-)

Last but not least...1972 S, I know of only two examples of the same DDO on business strike cents. One is my discovery coin and another was reported to either Ken Potter or John Wexler a few years ago. It probably falls into the lightning strike category too but finding one in UNC would be a treasure!

Have Fun,Bill
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09/25/2007 5:26 pm
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I forgot...There are also nice DDOs on 1984 and 1984 D cents. There's more than the doubled ear out there:-)

on that, Don't forget the 1997 Doubled Ear cent either:-)
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Well done Chuck. You do realize that you just created more work for yourself in having to reply to non-errors that people are going to post(probably including myself), since you've given EVERYONE a reason to search.....
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09/25/2007 6:09 pm
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