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Charles I Half Crown Opinions

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 Posted 02/08/2015  8:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111203756349?nav=SEARCH

Does anybody have any opinions on this coin? I'm interested in collecting civil war coinage, and was wondering if anyone has any concerns about the authenticity of this coin. Thanks!
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 Posted 02/08/2015  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have any experience on the coin itself...but the seller has 100% feedback and over 5,000 of them so that's a good sign. Also they have some really high priced items in their ebay store so they definitely seem legit. Maybe send them an email through ebay and ask them a few questions...
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The seller has good feedback as 'Debrajc' points out. While he has some coins for sale, he sells also a lot of other stuff. Having said that, how much expertise does the seller have with those coins? And he states a 'no returns' policy.
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 Posted 02/09/2015  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that the price in the condition pictured is a bit uppish.
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 Posted 02/09/2015  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have any concerns about the authenticity. But it's not the greatest of examples to my eyes. On the plus side the mint mark is clear. Minuses? Worn so the portrait isn't very clear.

Personally I think it's worth paying a bit more for better. I know that a few years down the line I have regretted poorer quality coins I've bought cheaply and looked to upgrade them.

This for example is £200 from a dealer I've bought from several times and been happy.

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Or this for just a few pounds more than the ebay coin .. £150 Portrait's not the strongest but a good round coin with decent legend detail and quite a pleasing (to my eyes) reverse ..

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Might be worth checking out his and a few other sites?
(http://www.coinsofbritain.co.uk/pag....asp?ID=3604)
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02/09/2015 06:03 am
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 Posted 02/09/2015  06:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh and you said Civil War coinage? In which case you need to remember that strictly speaking that just covers the (P), (R) Eye, Sun and Sceptre mint marks which were struck after the King fled London and while Parliament controlled the Tower Mint.

The quality control for coinage of this period is really quite poor, so getting a well struck example on a round flan is a challenge. However on the good side, shillings and half crowns were struck in decent quantities (though Sceptre mark coins are scarcer) and many were hidden away in hoards so finding unworn examples isn't impossible.

It's an interesting period (numismatically and historically) and it take a little while to develop an eye for what is a better than average example and what isn't!

If you are really keen on Charles I (or just Civil War) coinage I can recommend a couple of books? And Good luck with your searches!

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02/09/2015 06:17 am
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Thanks for all of the replies, and thanks Tom for the information! Yeah, civil war coinage is really what I'm interested, so thanks for the information on mint marks! It's really interesting to me that they were striking coins in the name of the man they were hunting down. Also, thanks for guiding me towards those nice examples. I'll have to do some research before I settle on anything. A fun project!! What books would you recommend on the subject?
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Edward Besley's slim book on Coins and Medals of the English Civil War is quite a nice read. Out of print but should be possible to pick up a copy for under $20.

For a broader coverage of the coins of Charles I, John Brooker's collection (over 1300 coins) was fortunately photographed (black and white) and catalogued before sale.

While it doesn't go into much historical detail I think it's still a wonderful reference as it has many examples not only of the regal coins issued prior to the CW but also those struck while Parliament controlled the Tower (of London) Mint at 'provincial' Royalist mints such as Oxford, York or Aberystwyth.

And if that's not enough, there are the fascinating (and scarce and expensive!) War period 'siege' pieces from places like Newark, where they were obliged to cut up silver plates and cups and stamp the fragments for use as coins. Plus a decent bibliography and list of collections from which Brooker obtained his coins ... All good for further research.

That's bit more pricey but I still regularly refer to the copy that I've had for over ten years. Around £20 (US$30) in the UK so this copy from Charles Davis seems quite reasonable: http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/B...arles+I

(Perhaps I should warn you that I have found it's quite possible to spend $00s on literature alone once you get into a specialist area!)

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02/11/2015 07:50 am
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