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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I have been seeking one of these for awhile. This one came calling in an odd sort of way, not via ebay, where they tend to be too pricey. There is original luster present here although the coin does appear to have been either slightly mishandled or lightly cleaned in the past. Photos accentuate the field chatter. Not sure what caused the 'burn' spots. I can live with this one for what it cost. Will it grade MS ? Thanks for looking in.  
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Canada
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looks high au details. I don't think those are burn marks, perhaps this coin was in a 2X2 ant the dark areas are where holes in the flip allowed toning.
Feel free to call me Will.
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 United States
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The coin has definitely seen circulation wear ... and the unusual surfaces are indicative of an old cleaning.
It will NOT grade MS.
The multiple hits/scratches ... coupled with the truly unusual dark smudges ... lead me to the conclusion this is at best an AU-Details example.
BTW ... most of us know this coin as an 1893 Isabella.
David
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with AU although not high AU. Assuming the coin wasn't cleaned you're looking at $350-450. For a coin that expensive I'd want it slabbed.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Lots of small dings and small scratches, but no real problems. Doesn't seem to have wear, but with that many tiny marks, perhaps there is an almost negible amount of wear. High AU seems right to me. AU58. Nice honest coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You see a lot of chatter like this on commemorative coins because they would kick around in jewelry boxes. AU-50 cleaned.
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Thanks, guys. What you are saying is pretty much in line with my thinking when I bought it. It's kind of surprising, though, to hear these might actually have seen circulation. The halves are common in that state but I have never seen one of these with honest circulation wear.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 with low AU and a possible details grade for a cleaning. The dark spot I've seen on a couple of my Morgans that were in 2x2 mylar holders, where the spotting happened most likely the mylar tore leaving that area exposed, and it was in a humid environment allowing for the area to darken that was left exposed.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very few of these saw circulation but they were ill-handled to the point where many acquired what might as well be wear. The Quarters especially flopped as Exposition novelty items, so a ton of them schlepped out to the Expo only to be handed off to multiple people and sold for cheap in the resulting months.
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1888 Posts |
Interesting. Thanks for the input, Ddave. They sure don't sell 'for cheap' nowadays.
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 United States
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Not to steal you thread ... but posting as a calibration check on these Isabella in circulated state ... Quote: but I have never seen one of these with honest circulation wear. There are plenty of these .. for current market demand ... with honest circulation wear ... PCGS having certified 83 Isabella examples at XF or lower. Current lowball is this lovely PCGS AG03 example ...  Some of these Isabella entered circulation ... a very few reached the circulation state as show above ... I stand by my original opinion of your lovely coin. David
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Edited by nickelsearcher 02/16/2015 9:35 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Does that belong to you, David?
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As nickelsearcher so aptly illustrates, some did manage to circulate. Coinage was working hard in the US in those days - look at the prevalence of heavily-circulated Barber coinage - and in the minds of many secondary owners these were just Quarters.
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Ha! What a cool well worn piece. Thanks for showing. I wish my grandpa had been into roll searching.. he probably could have found those. A quarter was a fair amount of pocket change in his day. But he was a poor shoe salesman who never even owned a car. A quarter to him was probably bus fare plus lunch at the local beanery. How the times have 'changed'.
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