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Is there a way to tell whether you have a 1916 or 1917 Walker if it looks dateless? I found an SLQ topic in my search but did not find one for this. History: I picked this up in a 90% lot this weekend for close to spot (lot was 13.5x face), and this could easily pay for part of the lot if I can definitively know that it is a 1916-S... while knowing that it is a 1917-S would help as well. The S mintmark is on the obverse, but the date, beyond a partial 1, is rubbed. Thank you in advance!    |
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Pillar of the Community
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Since the mint mark is on the obverse, this should be 1917.
As far as I know, only 1917 issues have mint mark on the obverse.
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The only obverse "S" mint marks on the Walking Liberty series are the 1916 and 1917. Both have the obverse S.
Unfortunately I know of no diagnostics to tell which one you have based on a no date coin. sorry
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I'm pretty sure it's a 1916. I looked at the first picture, and saw that under the foot and slightly to the right it looks like there's a pair of dots where the hole of the 6 and the space to the right of the 6's riser would be. Not knowing what a Walking Half 6 looks like, I looked up a picture of a 1916S half and sure enough it looked about how I imagined it would based on the image here posted.
Or I'm just seeing things. Could be that.
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Try comparing yours to my 1916-S half. Maybe there is a diagnostic you can look for.  Just going by the mintage numbers, yours is likely a 1917. |
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Thanks for the replies. I see a part of a "1" on it, which is no help. I was wondering if there are any die differences between 1916 and 1917 (could not find any help in the resources that I looked at).
1916 and 1917 are the only coins from this series with mintmarks on the obverse, and there is about a 4x multiple price difference between 1916 and 1917 which is why I am asking.
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To the best of my knowledge ... there are no definitive diagnostic differences in truly worn condition between the two coins. The Walker skirt line was changed in 1921 ... but that post-dates both of your coins. You need to be able to see a hint of the date to correctly identify ... sorry. FWIW ... this coin is a slam dunk for a true lowball grade of FR02 if specifically identifiable ... which I am doubting can be done. Not to steal your thread ... but for information sharing ... here is a photo of a 1916-S PCGS FR02 Walker ... lowball Pop 18/0 ...  Alas ... no visible date means no definitive identification between the two coins. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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1916 has an obverse "S". 1917 there are two versions, "S" obverse and "S" reverse. I do not know how to tell the difference without the date and wondering the value without the date. Melt?
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 This is what I'm seeing. Inside that blue box looks to me like a 6. The arrow is pointing to the same height as where I'm seeing the hole of the 6's loop. Only about half of the 6 is visible, from half of the riser down to about half of the base part. Please tell me I'm not crazy lol Edited by coinsearcher83
02/16/2015 8:54 pm
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Try tilting the coin to put a glare on the date. That will help sometimes.
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Looks like a 1916 to me (thanks to a quick Photoshop and the images posted) It looks like a closer match in the small pic than the blown up version of the same.   |
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That comparison (nice job Jack  ) does it. Looks IMO like a 1916. |
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Yeh, I was thinking that too, maybe a higher resolution pic will reveal the date. I have a 1870 Shield nickel like that. The date was not revealed until I took a high resolution scan. |
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Thank you for that! I will try to take a higher resolution picture and compare as you did, but it looks like the placement of what I thought was a "1" is actually in the place of the "6" and is the cross section of that 6. A much rarer coin has been identified... I thank all of the internet coin sleuths who helped me.
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What is a 1916 Walker with no date worth anyway? I wonder if some acid or substance would bring out the date. They use something to bring out numbers on guns and engines, but they are not silver. Just wondering.
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Posted 02/16/2015 4:22 pm
