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 Posted 02/17/2015  12:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add serth to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
evening all, new on here, a fellow coin enthusiast (primarily UK).

My neighbour showed me an interesting coin this morning that I have never seen nor heard of before and was hoping someone could shed some light on it.

The coin, which he received in his change, looks absolutely mint, with no dings/dents from change in the pocket/till etc. It looks like a normal issue £2 coin, dated 2011, with no inscription around the circumference. The coin say 'I love U Lani' accross the top of the front. I have searched the internet for personalised coins, especially The Royal Mint, but had no luck finding anything.

I was wondering whether this is some form of fake, something I've not been able to unearth through my investigations such as a special edition given to someone who's lost/spent it.

Any light you can shed on the situation is greatly appreciated. Please see picture below, sorry for poor quality, coin was so shiny that I coundn't focus on it with the phone.

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Serth

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 Posted 02/17/2015  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsearcher83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


A normal one would have an edge inscription, correct?

I'm also thinking this one is a fake, but not a counterfeit since it's technically undenominated. How does it weigh compared to a real one?
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 Posted 02/17/2015  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure on the weight, don't have accurate scales here and I doubt he will let me take it into uni to use their super accurate scales.

Every other coin I've seen has an edge inscription. The 'ribs' on the edge seemed rather raised too.
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 Posted 02/18/2015  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Serth, and welcome to the Forum!

A few more questions.

1. What is on the other side?

2. If you compare the centre with the centre of a bona fide standard £2 in hand, or better still several, do you see any differences on either side, other than the fresh state of your coin?

3. If you shake the coin does the centre rattle at all?

4. Any differences in the metals versus a real young £2, that you can spot?

5. By the 'ribs' around the edge, do you mean the pattern of curves and dots on the ring? Its spacing from the numerals and their spacing also look different from real £2 of that date and previously discussed fakes.

Incidentally this post is already a first page Google result for "love lani coin" as you may have searched for already, no others I could see.
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 Posted 02/18/2015  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unless the fellow who made it had several girlfriends all named "Lani", then I don't see why more than one would have been made, so it's not surprising that it has no other Google hits.

As to it's manufacture, I would assume that it's either a complete fake/fantasy or it's the core of a genuine £2 coin, with the outer ring thrown away and replaced by this one specially made by or for Lani's friend. The Royal Mint does not do private one-off personalized coins like this; it would have been done elsewhere. I should point out that in Britain, it's also illegal to make "replica" coins that look like legal tender, and it's illegal to modify a coin in this way. I assume that whoever made this was unaware of this fact.

A modern-day love token. Alas, Lani doesn't seem to have appreciated her gift, since I assume the OP's neighbour's name isn't "Lani".
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 Posted 02/18/2015  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't even think the central piece is real... The hologram looks 3d.
It also reminds me of the gold plated fake £2's available on alibaba
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 Posted 02/18/2015  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses all. I will get some more photos tomorrow and compare to legitimate £2 coins. Is it common for fraudulent £2 coins to be made?

Personally, I collect the 50p, £1 and £2 special issues (primarily) and I got a little excited that this was a one off legal tender. I had heard about the outside ring being removable.

I also am aware that it's illegal to deface/modify money. It was found in his change from a thrifty supermarket chain so I can only assume it was a love token from a previous lover/given to a skint person!

On the topic of coin modification and 'replicas' I am aware that the Kingdom of Swaziland purchased an old £1 coin press from the UK and uses/used it to make a coin in their currency (worth 1/13th of £1). I used to know someone who would find these in fruit machines at his pub where someone was obviously emptying the machine of real pounds and topping it up with the fake ones!
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 Posted 02/18/2015  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was the same with a Kenyan coin which was exactly the same size as the old large 50p's but worth a fraction.
I must confess to getting a few whilst on my honeymoon.
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 Posted 02/18/2015  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's been some discussion of recent fake £2 designs on other threads esp. "Fake £1", but they are still clearly much rarer than fake £1. None like yours though.

Hence the questions, which might shed light on whether it had a specially made ring to go round a bona fide centre, etc.

It's also been claimed that the "Swazi swizz" coin was made by Royal Mint as one of its issues for other countries. I got one once in change from a Tesco machine and it has a distinctly larger diameter than any genuine £1 I compared it to, including a Gibraltar 'skull' £1 that also a plain milled edge. Created on the accession of the famously polygamous and autocratic King Mswati III of Swaziland in 1986, it depicts him and I think also his co-regent mother. Even he had to change to a much lighter brass-plated steel version as of 2009, according to the Numista catalogue. The all-brass version is worth more ebayed than as an actual instrument for fraud, as often seems to be the way...
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 Posted 02/19/2015  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have spoken to my neighbour and plan to get some photos and more information tonight. He wants to take it to the bank to get them to look at it, but he also wants to keep it, and I've told him that the bank will keep it if he gives it to them. Is this correct?

He has also told me that the date is printed on both sides, which again, is unusual, and he is thinking it could be a misstruck coin. Will fill you in with more information later on.

Cheers for all the replies to date guys and girls :)
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 Posted 02/19/2015  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Serth. If it is taken to the bank they will probably keep it and almost certainly won't have heard of it. The chances are that The Royal Mint itself won't have, unless they have someone following this. The outer part is fake, that's for sure.
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 Posted 02/19/2015  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slight tangent but...

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All of those have been either taken over the counter or taken in machines as UK currency
(I assume the NZ dollar and Mexican peso were over the counter as they're not close enough)
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Hi all, got home and got some more pictures of the coin.

I have noticed on other £2 coins that the very centre circle is flat to the touch, whereas the details in the centre are raise.

The colour, when compared to another new (2014) coin, is very bright, almost too bright. Especially for a 2011 coin which you would have expected to be in circulation. I'm assuming the metal is harder than the commonly used metal as this coin has no chips/dents depsite being in a till.

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As you can see, there is no edge inscription (around the thin side of the coin) but the pattern around the outer ring on the flat side of the coin matches a legitimate one almost identically.
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As mentioned before, it is 'double dated' - dates on both sides.
The head side of the coin even has the standard 'IRB' printed underneath it
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 Posted 02/19/2015  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! I cannot see anything to link that with any previous kind of UK fake £2 or £1, except possibly the choice of 2011 date that some other fake £2 used. No way was that a one-off. I wonder if it was made in some far-flung country where foreign coin counterfeiting isn't an offence if the purported denomination isn't stated (so presumably the Battle of Britain 50p would be game too, beware! ) although it could also be pursued over copyright infringements. This is possibly in another league beyond Onel entirely, i.e. a high-end overseas mint shielded by a cavalier regime. History in the making I think.

As regards the metal's condition, I think the coin is just very new though the outer alloy may be slightly different.
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It's a pretty good copy isn't it!

I'm convinced now that its 100% fake, inside and outside, but it's still something I'd like to know more about. Are there pictures of these other fake £2 coins that you can share?

Also, the middle doesn't rattle like asked above. There is also no noticeable weight difference between coins but obviously without high accuracy scales we won't be able to tell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lani - been looking up the meaning of the name, maybe it was a name originating from a certain country, and it apparently means 'baby' in Hawaian, which might have been a name/petname for the maker's love?

I hadn't noticed the lack of denomination name on the coin, although it's obvious now!

Is it just me, or does the date look like a 20 and then two ones after it, almost as it if was created using a 20 and two ones rather than 4 seperate numbers? The zero looks a little closer to the 2 and looks possibly slightly smaller?

Also, the hologram in the middle is completley raised so I guess they didn't have the technology to make this portion of it look real!
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The fake £2 images shown or referenced on the Fake £1 thread are pretty exhaustive, or at least they once were!

Also a few celebrity candidates, if you google Lani images.

I think the typesetting is just a bit rushed, if you follow the 'obverse' inscription round it gets even worse.

I would also warn your friend, if he tries that in a machine he may well lose it too!

Royal Mint will be saying "Ah yes, but none of these types have got the hologram right, have they, have they?!"
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