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1809 Half Dollar In Ebay Lot... Too Good To Be True?

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Saw this lot.

Is that half dollar the real deal?
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Ummm....no. A'43D Copper to boot. They are pretty clear in the description...."This auction is for 3 Souvenir , they have no collection value"
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Well, okay. I don't collect early halves, so what (aside from the description I was hoping was wrong) makes it stand out as a fake?
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The whole thing looks crude to me. The mushy details of the shield stand out in my mind. Odd almost perfect circulation "toning".....
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The bust half looks fake, fake, fake to me - just my humble opinion of course.
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I believe I trust the seller's opinion. The Half might be contemporary, but unlikely. Frankly, it's too good. Detectable as a fake (letter misalignment/weakness), but better than the majority of contemporary counterfeits.
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Modern fake. The obverse might fool somebody that doesn't know the series but the reverse is way off.
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The half has a eire rim on the obverse. Those didn't exist until the 1830's when the US started using collars for their coins.
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While the seller's description is honest, listing replicas like the 1809 is contrary to ebay policy.
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Yes, it's a direct violation of ebay rules but they don't care any more.
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Well, I just tried to bid on it with 8 seconds left, but I didn't realize I was signed out for ebay. Crap. My plan was to donate these to the Black Cabinet if Steve didn't already have examples. I really like the look of the half dollar, even though it is fake. My bid was $25.00, so I would have lost anyway.
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Darth ... Fine thought, that. Sadly, pieces like these, the 1809 and the 1943-D may someday be sucker bait.
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From what I read, replicas are not allowed that aren't clearly marked. Calling them souvenirs is iffy, they should just say replicas.
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ebay policies have different span ks for different ranks. But then with the Paypal split and the big layoffs ebay seems to be falling apart. Not a lot of nice stuff on their anymore. Just lots and lots of just junk. Even a coin show in a town of less than 10,000 in population has better eye appealing options. Okay Super Dave question for you --- yes "United States" looks fuzzy an weak and that's a tell but is the "9" in the date too high? This half just has an off appearance --- then the other thing is if genuine why would you throw it in with two sub $5 Lincolns?
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