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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I have had no joy in finding the reverse type for this coin although I am aware it doesn't belong with a Constantius/II type. Therefore am I correct in assuming that it is a mule ?     The only thing I could find was a mule type from Thrace with a constantius II obverse and a valentinian I reverse, a shot in the dark I know but could that explain it ? TIA |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
701 Posts |
Sorry Pish,
Its - STA?
Although only the top part of the 3rd letter is visible so it could be something else.
Edited by tenbobbit
02/20/2015 8:14 pm
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 United States
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The reverse is one found on coins of Constantius II. victory advancing left holding wreath and palm. Seated captive on either side. I'll see if I can come up with a RIC number for you.
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United States
23731 Posts |
I'm having a hard time reading the reverse legend. Are you able to read it?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
701 Posts |
The reverse legend doesn't make any sense to me Echizent,
AT( lower case b ? )IVIIq ( looks like a backwards P )
ATbIVIIq, I know that wont make any sense.
Victory also has a palm in right and wreath in left which is the opposite of normal and the captive is on the wrong side, there isn't two captives.
All of the constantius II coins are the mirror image if you get what I mean. wreath right, branch left & single captive the other side.
Its had me confused for a while now.
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Moderator
United States
23731 Posts |
Strange, I can't figure out that reverse legend.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
701 Posts |
It seems like a mish mash put together badly as far as the reverse goes and the obverse is crude at best. I don't like to cast aspersions especially when its my coin but something seems wrong here  Maybe you can understand why I went for a mule type, I couldn't come up with anything better. |
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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That is a very odd portrait of Constantius II , I know this may be wrong but it looks more like his father Constantine than it does him . Could it be an imitation issue ?
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
701 Posts |
Hi AM, I said to Echizento that the reverse appears a mirror image of what it should be, I suppose we are left with Mule or Imitation ? It certainly is a head scratcher  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It totally looks like a comtemporary imitative to me. No doubt about it in my opinion.
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United States
23731 Posts |
That would explain the odd looking bust and legend.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A bit messy but the obverse legend reads CONSTANTINVS AVG so for sure its daddy, and clearly his portrait as well.
The reverse is the mirror image of the SARMATIA DEVICTA type. A bit messy as well but you can see DEVICTA spelled out backwards (VICTA is fairly clear, the DE is a bit shoddy)
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Pillar of the Community
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Good call A.M.  There are so many of those guys that I confess to not paying the portrait much attention and going straight for the legend. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Very nice example of a contemporary forgery. Not seen one like this (and its reversed to boot). I guess its the work of two people - the obverse die being engraved correctly. Looks like it was cleaned using acid - Id recommend a bit of proactive maintenance. Wash the surfaces with acetone (remove any gunk) and then treat it as though it has bronze disease.
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