Libertad Varieties.is There A Master List?

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ilikeikes Pillar of the Community United States 1205 Posts	Posted 03/02/2015 1:12 pm Hi..I'm trying to find a master list of known Varieties(not errors) for the Mexican Libertad Series..any one point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Being a long time variety collector, it seems like possibilites for finds, and, maybe new finds. I just Bought Don Bailey's New Mexican Coinage Book, VOL I, from Amazon..this should be very educational and informative. Thanks Calvin Edited by ilikeikes 03/02/2015 1:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff

denco7 Pillar of the Community United States 2543 Posts	Posted 03/02/2015 2:32 pm Since I mainly (for now) collect 1oz BU Libertads, both raw in a Dansco and graded for a registry set, I mainly only know 1oz varieties. 1987 DDO, the yet unconfirmed 1988 with edge lettering, and the 1991 Type II mule with 1992 obverse and the proof style reverse. The Don Bailey volumes are definitely your best bet. Pat Stovall from Lois and Don Bailey and Son Numismatic Services,is probably the foremost authority on the series in the U.S. Report this Post to the Staff
ilikeikes Pillar of the Community United States 1205 Posts	Posted 03/02/2015 3:39 pm Here's 1 I don't know anything about..you guys familiar with this Variety? 1991 MO NGC PF69 SILVER 1 ONZA 8 DOTS ON MOUND LIBERTAD MEXICO ULTRA CAMEO PROOF Report this Post to the Staff
denco7 Pillar of the Community United States 2543 Posts	Posted 03/02/2015 6:34 pm It refers to the cactus under the eagle's left claw and the number of dots on it. Up until 1991 the BU versions always had 7 dots on the cactus, the proof versions, always had 8 dots. In 1991 about 1.6 million 1oz BU Libertads were minted however some coins started to show up with 8 dot reverses, similar to the proof versions but without the prooflike finish. No one knows why or how many were minted, but they are as scarce (or more) to come upon as the 1998's which are the lowest mintage of the series. These have become to be known as the 1991 Type II. Proof Libertads were first issued in 1983 when less than 1000 were minted (lowest) and then minted again in 1986 when 30,000 were minted (highest). They always had 8 dots on the cactus. This all changed in 1993 when the BU versions and the Proof versions all of a sudden went back to seven dots. Then of course the whole series was redesigned in 1996. All the 1991 proofs had 8 dots, I don't think or know why that would be a variety. I have never heard of that coin as a variety. Report this Post to the Staff
toddler81 New Member United States 34 Posts	Posted 07/18/2015 1:27 pm Are the 1991 types distinguishable solely by the lettering on the obverse or do we know if there are any OnZa coins (as opposed to onza) with 7 dots on the pad? Report this Post to the Staff
hu5kers77 Valued Member United States 88 Posts	Posted 08/08/2015 7:45 pm Any idea how many Type I vs Type II 1991 BU Libertads were minted? Report this Post to the Staff
toddler81 New Member United States 34 Posts	Posted 07/25/2018 12:54 pm @hu5kers77 I don't think there was a distinction in the counting process after the coins were released. If I recall, there were 50,000 1991 libertad 5 piece sets. The fractionals all have the same lettering as the 1 oz piece (OnZa instead of onza). My guess is there are about 50,000 of the T2 1 oz coin. @ilikeikes here is a list of the varieties I have been able to put together... BU 1 oz 1982 DD 1982 TDO (NON COMPETITIVE?) 1987 DD (easily identified by the doubling of the decimal before the purity) 1988 DD (same as 87, though apparently much rarer--just discovered recently) 1990 PL (Do we consider this a variety, or just a lucky strike?) 1991 T2 type font is OnZa (as opposed to onza) 1999 Mule (reverse of 2000) Proof 1oz 1983 DDO 1983 TDO 1987 Plain Edge 1987 Lettered Edge 1987 Missing Feather (under Angel's left wing, viewer's right) Lettered Edge 1989 999 (no decimal in purity) 1989 .999 (decimal in purity) (Does anyone know which one is more rare?) (There is supposed to be a proof 1991 with 7 dots on mound, but according to Don Bailey, no known specimens exist.) 2004 Die Crack in Base 2015 2oz detached wing Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73798 Posts	Posted 07/27/2018 5:18 pm I know there's one Libertad variety, where the woman is missing feathers on her wings. http://goccf.com/t/285874 Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Hidalgo Valued Member United States 216 Posts	Posted 08/03/2018 2:34 pm There are so many 1 ounce Libertad silver varieties. Most seem insignificant (e.g., an extra dot). Reminds me of varieties such as the Atheist Lincoln Cent, "Superman" Washington quarter, Bugs Bunny Franklin half dollar, etc. These varieties, are "novelty" coins and do not generate widespread collector interest. What are the MAJOR Libertad varieties that most collectors would want in their collections? I would presume that if there is a "slot" for them in a coin album, they would generate a lot of demand and interest. Report this Post to the Staff
toddler81 New Member United States 34 Posts	Posted 08/06/2018 5:07 pm Varieties have to be discovered before they can have a spot in an album... If you have any with an insignificant extra dot, I'd be happy to take them off your hands for a fair price. I'm just not able to post in BST or send PMs yet because I don't have 50 posts.... Report this Post to the Staff
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