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1943 Copper Lincoln Wheat Cent?

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Seller calls it:
1943 Steel Lincoln Cent AU

It sure looks copper to me! 230178199005
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10/08/2007 11:27 pm
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Holy Mackerel! I just bought it for $3!
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If it is indeed real it is worth much more than that I believe.
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 Posted 10/08/2007  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it might be his photography skills as the Buffalo nickels he has posted look that color too!
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I agree judging by his other photos in his other auctions it is his lighting that is making this coin look the copper color
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i think hes shooting in the sepia mode... notice how the paper is the same color.
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If it is indeed real it is worth much more than that I believe.


From Wikipedia:

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Right behind the 1955 doubled die cent, the 1943 copper cent is one of the notable error rarities of the Lincoln Cent series. An estimated 40 examples are believed to have been struck, with 12 confirmed to exist. The error occurred when copper planchets were left in the press hopper and press machines during the changeover from copper to steel blanks. Examples were discovered in the late 1940s, with the first two discovered in 1947, and another in 1958. An example first sold in 1958 for $40,000; one mint state specimen sold for over $200,000 in 2004.


Real 1943 Copper:

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Obverse and reverse of a 1943 Copper Penny, one of the more notable errors of the Lincoln Cent series. In 1943, cents were minted of steel to help conserve resources, but this substitution proved not to work.

Info about this particular specimen:

* Grade: PCGS MS-61 Brown.
* Pedigree:
o Ex - found in circulation circa 1957 by 14-year old Marvin Beyer, who reportedly turned down an offer of $20,000 for the coin.
o Abe Kosoff's "A.N.A. Convention Sale - A Festival of Coins" Sale, 1958, Lot 2055 (where it was withdrawn prior to the sale).
o Superior Galleries' "Pre-Long Beach Sale", October 1-3, 2000, Lot 4146, illustrated, ANACS MS-61, sold for $60,375.00
o Ira & Larry Goldberg Coins & Collectibles, Inc. "The Benson Collection, Part III", February 24-25, 2003, Lot 148, illustrated, now PCGS MS-61 Brown (#50035361), sold for $97,750.00
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I see these all the time, I always ask them if it sticks to a magnate, if it does then you know it is copper plated steel
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thx for the information
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P.S. Now you have a story behind that coin =D
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Yeah, there were some copper '43s, as well as quite a few steel '44s. They're not very common either.. I saw a steel '44 on ebay the other day, went for $50.
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i think the three looks funny because of a contact mark where the bottom loop starts
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I saw a steel '44 on ebay the other day, went for $50.


No way, Jose. I did a search for completed listings & current listings & found nothing (except a replica copy). This real 1944 Steel, for example, went for $34,500!

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https://coins.ha.com/common/view_it...&Lot_No=2036

And this AU55 went for $69,000!

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https://coins.ha.com/common/view_it...65&type=&ic=

Also, I see a price listed of $3,970 for 1944 Steel VF on Numismedia site:

http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/price...icesgd.shtml
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I've got several Copper 1943 Cents but they all stick to a magnet. Used to be a big thing when I was a kid for people to make and sell them.
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Holy hell! I knew I should have put a bid in for that stupid thing X.X Yeah, seriously though, I did see a 1944 steel penny go for $50. I used to have it bookmarked, but I deleted it after the auction ended....
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