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You Vs. Old PCGS Morgan 1881 S

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So, what's your guess?
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 Posted 03/05/2015  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lovely coin. The only real distractions are around the chin. I think in-hand I'd call this one MS65.
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Old PCGS probably had this at MS64.
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 Posted 03/05/2015  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valleyco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think MS64 is the right grade, but in a rattler probably a 63.
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I'll go MS64 on this one.
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MS64, in a new holder it would most likely make 65 IMO.
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Reverse solid 65. Obverse..I think the chin acne grades it at 63. I'll net it at MS 64
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Ooooh, MS-65.
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I'm with panzaldi MS64 doubt a MS65 with the chin acne, if it made MS65 don't crack it I doubt it would make that today.
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I may be giving the quality of aleroe's photography too much credit for unfairly highlighting the darker marks on the cheek - that's a pitfall of high-res imaging. If that be the case it's still a happy 64 for all the other nice features.

When evaluating images of this quality - clear enough to make me feel the hand grader's advantage is minimized - I look at a coin twice. The first time you can't help but look close, immediately seeking the marks and blemishes which define the technical grade. Find all that and crunch the numbers.

Then glance at the coin again. One quick look at each face, like you're seeing it in a case for the first time. This is where eye appeal is measured, and where the hand grader starts. That's a subtle but important difference in grading. We get to see the technical faults highlighted as our first impression, and the hand grader sees the coin at its' best. Sometimes they don't look closer often enough, and sometimes we don't step back often enough.

The first glance at this coin shows pristine surface at the spot every experienced Morgan grader's eyes focus, the center of the cheek, below and right of the eye. Only then do you see the rest.
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I'm thinking the chin acne will get her a 63 but there appears to be a hint of PL-ness to the fields. I'm going MS-63PL. PG
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I will say 63 for this coin. The reverse is absolutely spectacular - MS65 easy - but the obverse carries more weight for TPG"s. Unfortunate since the reverse of the Morgan dollar is absolutely gorgeous.
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I'll be interested to see the result. I think it is bright and clear mostly and should get a 65 but unfortunate battering probably knocks it to a 63 or 64.
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I also thought it might be PL but not sure from these pics, 63 on the holder; 64 if graded today
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Pcgs so MS62 with the fine pirate scar cheek scratch, chin & neck point rubs and field haze on obv
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Hmm, This was interesting. It is indeed slabbed MS65, in an old green holder. I got three of them, and I am pretty sure one of them will be a 66 if I slab it. It is way better than the other two.

Anyways, fun to see how grading a coin is this varied. If I come by more slabbed coins here, I'll test you guys again.
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